Headline in my local paper today.

[Joel]

You know Red you probably are right. A**hole was probably not the right word to use but I don't see anyone crying fowl when they call me a infidel because I'm non-Muslim. And I find it very insulting when they refer to Jesus Christ as just another prophet. I don't see anybody saying anything about that either. And it is not just the extremist that say that. So is it that only minorities are allowed to speak their mind without being called a racist???

Joel

[Wombat]

Joel, infidel is the correct word for them to use. The primary definition is "An unbeliever with respect to a particular religion, especially Christianity or Islam". You are an infidel to Muslims, as they are to you.

They do hold Jesus in high regard, but not as one resurrected. They do believe in the Immaculate Conception. They do believe that Jesus will be present at Judgement Day.

Just another prophet? Being in the company of Moses, Abraham, and Mohammed (for some people) is not exactly being shat upon.

I don't see why you take this as an insult. How could a Muslim state beliefs that contradict Christianity without you taking it as an insult? They're not calling Jesus perverted or Satanic. Do you consider Jews perverted and Satanic because they generally view Jesus as "an honorable Jew?"

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The Webster's definition of infidel is even more interesting:

One who does not believe in the prevailing religious faith; especially, one who does not believe in the divine origin and authority of Christianity; a Mohammedan; a heathen; a freethinker.

Note: Infidel is used by English writers to translate the equivalent word used Mohammedans in speaking of Christians and other disbelievers in Mohammedanism.

Syn: Infidel, Unbeliever, Freethinker, Deist, Atheist, Sceptic, Agnostic.

[Lizzard[MPE]]

Reading this thread was a bit tiresome. guys.. calm down.

[Rags]

Main Entry: ass·hole
Pronunciation: 'as-"(h)Ol
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 usually vulgar : ANUS
2 a usually vulgar : a stupid, incompetent, or detestable person b usually vulgar : a despicable place -- usually used in the phrase ****ole of the universe

Rags

[Joel]

Follow up to the story I posted earlier.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/south/10/28/pak.christian.shooting/index.html

Joel

[Wombat]

Random thought...

So, when these nutcases sent out the anthrax-laden letters...

Do you think we could maybe get lucky and one of them licked the envelope?

[The PIT]

On Channel 4 news program last night they had a live broadcast with the priest where the murders took place. When asked if this was because of the bombing in Afghanistan the priest was drowned out by people in the background. He then returned saying "my People say it was becuase of that and I've got too belief my people".

Also on the early morning news it was mentioned that there are young Muslim leaving this country to fight on the taliban side. Whats the chances that we let these poeple back in when it's over and have trained people walking our streets that hate our society and want to destroy it.

Oh going back to germ warfare whats the chances of one these idoits releasing the wrong type of germ and end up wiping half the people of the planet including themselfs.

[Joel]

On Channel 4 news program last night they had a live broadcast with the priest where the murders took place. When asked if this was because of the bombing in Afghanistan the priest was drowned out by people in the background. He then returned saying "my People say it was becuase of that and I've got too belief my people".

You have to remember that these people believe that all westerners are Christian and that all Christians anywhere support the western countries. These people drove up on motorcycles, killed a sercurity guard, stormed into the building, bolted the doors and then opened fire with automatic weapons not caring in the least who they killed just that they did kill. The people in the church were not Americans. Just as with the attacks on the WTC there is no justification for this. This is pure evil, through and through.

Oh going back to germ warfare whats the chances of one these idoits releasing the wrong type of germ and end up wiping half the people of the planet including themselfs.

There is a very high chance that something like that could happen. As far as them killing themselves that is not a concern because in the Islam religion dying for the holy war is the only gauranty way to salvation.

But don't take just my word for it.

http://www.truthnet.org/islam/timabr.htm

Joel

[The PIT]

Joel I believe you it's a shame others don't realise whats going on.
I've decided the Koran I've got is the Terrorist addition and justifies everything that has happened so far.

[cjolley]

Joel,
I assume that that reference to "truthnet.org" is meant as a joke.
Look farther into their site. Not a place I would want to use as a reference.
chuck

[KvHagedorn]

Could you tell us what you found there that was objectionable, Chuck?

[Joel]

I assume that that reference to "truthnet.org" is meant as a joke.

The reference was to a testimony of someone's conversion from Islam to Christianity and the things that occur to him because of it. It was not an endorsement of the whole site. I can and have found other testimonies that are very simular and I'll look for them if you want me too.

Joel

[The PIT]

I can't see anything wrong the link which bit did offend you??

[RedRed]

You have to remember that these people believe that all westerners are Christian and that all Christians anywhere support the western countries. These people drove up on motorcycles, killed a sercurity guard, stormed into the building, bolted the doors and then opened fire with automatic weapons not caring in the least who they killed just that they did kill. The people in the church were not Americans. Just as with the attacks on the WTC there is no justification for this. This is pure evil, through and through.

Joel - THE SAME THING HAPPEND IN IRELAND - 3 TIMES! IT IS NOT A MUSLIM THING. This happened not far from where I used to live. 3 people from the INLA walk into a Protestant church (with ak47's) and fire all round them (Killed 9, if my memory is correct). Later the same thing happens in a catholic church (hand grenades this time)

Grow up.
Terrorist war is like this.
The War on terrorism will continue like this.
As america extends its firepower, these people will reach new depths. It is the only type of attack they can employ. The is NO justification for it. There IS an explaination of it.

Hate breeds Hate.
Take Care
RedRed

[Helevitia]

How many smurfs does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

2 if you can get the sleeping bag in there as well.