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    I can't believe what this forum has come to. I remember when all the topics were either in good fun or informative. Now what we have is certain members pounding their chests and refusing to acknowledge that an opinion different from their own can possibly be valid.

    Anytime someone suggests an alternative to the bombing campaign, they're attacked by the likes of Joel, KvH, Helevitia. When the moderator takes part in the attacks and fails to restrain those that attack, why bother?

    Joel calls Islam a satanic religion and calls Mohammad an a**hole. Pure racist. Backtracking in later posts doesn't change what he said (and am certain he MEANT).

    Dr. Mordrid suggests the Taliban hasn't bathed in 6 months, furthering a stereotype.

    KvH suggests "growing up a bit" if anyone is offended by his hate.

    I've now read two posts by Helevitia calling someone a terrorist sympathizer. Are you kidding me?

    I've been a member of the MURC for over 2 years. I used to send people to this board to learn about video cards OTHER than Matrox because of the impartial knowledge, knowing everyone gets a fair shake here. That stopped about a year ago during the battle of "The Soap Box". Most members know what I'm talking about.

    Now, I'm ashamed of my affiliation with this board. What used to be a fun forum is now a forum of incivility, hate, and racism. Don't give me this crap about how it's your country and you have a right to demand revenge. It's also MY country. Your vote gets no more attention than mine does. Screaming louder than I do doesn't make your point any more valid.

    As long as members like Hel, KvH, and Joel are allowed to use their good-old-boy attitudes to bully others around and then wrap themselves in the 1st Amendment as an excuse for their ignorance and hatred, I have no interest in being a member of this board.

    At the very least, regardless of personal feelings/beliefs, Joel should be warning/banning people who post such hateful things. Of course, he would start with himself, but I suppose that's asking for too much.

    I hope the non-American members realize we're not all like Joel, KvH, and Helevitia (among others - I just mentioned the worst offenders).

    Ant, please remove my account from this board. I come here hoping things have changed back to the fun MURC, but they just keep getting worse. I feel like I need to shower after every visit.
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    Thankyou.

    regards Michael
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    • #3
      How dare you call us disgusting for having the courage to take a stand against those who want all of us dead and our culture destroyed? I have seen no alternatives mentioned to "the bombing" (as if that's all it is). All I have seen is vaccuous statements about "stopping the bombing" and people like you calling us hateful. Wake up, people.. it's time to take a stand in this thing. I shudder to think that the majority of Westerners might be like ahartman and seek retreat into their priviledged lives, sinking their heads into the sand and not bothering to defend themselves and their bretheren at all. If that happens, we will be slaughtered like sheep. I choose not to be.

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      • #4
        The Soap Box
        A forum where you can discuss any old rubbish. Now there is no excuse for polluting the other forums!
        Joel
        Libertarian is still the way to go if we truly want a real change.

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        • #5
          OK folks I warned you all about this. I have been unable to keep up with threads because of my illness, if you cannot all respect my wishes on how to behave in these discussions I will simply delete the threads. You had your chance to act like adults.

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          • #6
            ahartman
            It is your choice to leave the Forum, but I would ask you not to.

            It is true that this particular forum has become vitrolic in parts, and that an element of 'America Rules' has come into many threads. It is true that most of these are started and are unnecessary stirring by one or two individuals. It is true that the soap box may need some MODERATE moderation. However these people do not make up the majority of the readers of the soap box, I am sure.

            If I have given you ANY offense in any way, I apologise. My thoughts are against ANY extreemism. The events of September have left a bitter taste in many peoples mouth (and Keyboard). Give it a while and see if it settles.

            Take Care Now
            RedRed
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            • #7
              Originally posted by KvHagedorn
              I shudder to think that the majority of Westerners might be like ahartman and seek retreat into their priviledged lives, sinking their heads into the sand and not bothering to defend themselves and their bretheren at all. If that happens, we will be slaughtered like sheep. I choose not to be.
              KvH, you've proven my point better than I ever could have. Where did I say anything about how I felt we should deal with the terrorist situation?

              Perhaps you're taking the fact that I distanced myself from the way you state your beliefs as my being in cahoots with the terrorists.

              *sigh*
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              • #8
                please ignore the above.

                I was unaware that Ant had posted... (too long in an edit window!!!)

                Regards
                RedRed
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                • #9
                  I don't hate these people. I just hate that they hate me because I am an American. And I truely wish that we could all just shake hands and get on with life. I didn't start this but I will be damned if I am going to sit idlely by while they try to destroy America, my fellow Americans and me and my family.

                  I medically can't join the Army or I would. So I have tried to present things that you will not find in the main stream media to show that there is more to this story than what some people want to admit. Yes I have allowed my emotions on a couple of occassion to come through but that is mainly out of frustration on my own part. I just have to realize that if people don't want to get it then that is not my problem.

                  Joel
                  Libertarian is still the way to go if we truly want a real change.

                  www.lp.org

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                  • #10
                    Can't we all just get along?

                    ahartman, if you don't like what's going on in the Soap Box, stick with the Hardware forums and leave the war of words to people who want to fight it. The hardware forums are still a great source for people who need help and wish to discuss computers more civil like. But under no circumstance do you have the right to call any of the 'Good 'ol boys' racist or hateful. You don't know them, you don't know how their heads work. The forum is a place for some people to vent, and when people vent, harsh words are spoken. Generalizing them through small words only makes you the same as they are.

                    KvH, just want you to know that I'm with you. It is time to end the terroist networks, foriegn and domestic, that threaten our lands. But please, don't take out your anger on fellow Americans. ahartman isn't the only one that thinks you and a few others have gone far above and beyond the call of duty on this matter. A little restraint would ease tensions a lot. I don't mind that you're preaching the cause, I've been preaching it too, just think before you speak, bro.

                    Jammrock
                    “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
                    –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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                    • #11
                      This forum is not a forum to vent, this is a forum for off topic discussion, i.e. not Matrox related, that does not mean words of anger or hatred are tolerated. Why should he not be allowed to frequent this forum because he objects as I do to some of the hateful things that get said? As I have said before if things cannot be discussed in a reasoned and adult manner then the discussions are not welcome here.

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                      • #12
                        Where do bees go to the bathroom?

                        At the BP station of course!
                        Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and slide on the ice.

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                        • #13
                          The Ant has spoken, but...

                          The Soap Box has always been a place to vent and rant. Until 9-11 the vents were all, "I hate Monday's," "Good Bye Matrox," "M$ sux because ...," etc. These were trivial little matters that no one really cared about. When 9-11 hit, people became very...passsionate about certain patriotic/nationalistic stuff.

                          Anywho, things are better now at least. Because you know, there are two things in this world I hate: Rascists and Afghans.

                          Jammrock

                          PS - If the joke offended you, put on your thinking cap.
                          “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
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