Cannabis ?

[Sasq]

My home state in Australia, its been decriminalized(sp?) for personal use, its much more open and relaxed about it now. There are ups and downs to it, its still illigal and you get an on the spot fine, but no biggie.

Over a given ammount it becomes possesion with intent to sell, and that gets ugly. But it has freed the police up to deal with harder drugs and other more pressing problems.

[Greebe]

With dope we are all slightly underground, and hence you cannot even apologise for not being quite with it the morning after - unlike alcohol.

ehhh???... I've had to deal with many morning after hungovered peeps and they are completely a waste and typically major a**holes until they come out of that still drunken stupor.

Lets see some facts about both being posted... it's not like the US GOV didn't have a hand in all this... 'Pot' being labeled as a narcotic... NOT, then being labeled as an hallucinogen... NOT

it's not like alcohol isn't a drug... with a meriad of greater health risks compared to above.

There has never been an honest study that's proven that lite drugs aka 'Pot' preempting users do harder drugs.

and the "War on Drugs" is the greatest fleecing of America, next to the health care system

I'm in favor of both being legal, but the current established mindset/ psychobabble is nothing more than a bag of bullsheit pulling the wool over peoples eyes is gratuitously sickining.

[The PIT]

Originally posted by GNEP


I agree. But that's exactly why legalisation is the only answer - the more open and honest we are about what we do the better.
gnep out.

Sorry don't follow this if someones spaced out at work they can be risk to there fellow employees. Making it legal won't alter this fact it's more likely to make it more common. The next question is which drug next will be on the list to be legalised.

Companies seem quite slack over pissed workers at work or will be until someone gets killed then they'll be a little head hunt of course.

[Kruzin]

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[Greebe]

I have to agree TP... I'm sure that if legalized it many companies would require their employees not to use them.

Was talking to an electrician friend up north the otherday and he mentioned that he had cut his finger at work wiring up a panel, slightly nicking it which caused a small amount of blood. Needed a bandaid from the nurse and they required a urine analysis test to be done because of said accident.

Next thing you know we'll be pulled over for a burnt out taillight and the car being searched for drugs... DOH that's already happening!

[Dr Mordrid]

KvHagedorn's right in the need for a "neither" option.

Alcohol blows out your liver and other endocrine systems, kills more brain cells than most people even joke about, shrivels up your skin and generally turns you into a biochemical disaster area. While I do drink some beer (RARELY) working 25 years in the medical field cured me of hard drinking after seeing a few autopsies.

As for cannibis; it should be legalized for chemotherapy patients but not generally. It delivers far more tar and other volatile mutagen/carcinogens to the lungs than tobacco. The cannabis itself is also mutagenic, especially to the reproductive and nervous systems.

No thanks.

Dr. Mordrid

[The PIT]

I can remember when I was younger coming back from the night club with the sun coming up half hour in bed then off to work. I used to swear it never effected my work. Rubbish.

[Dr Mordrid]

What drives me nuts is the hypocracy involved. Very often the same folks who are the biggest drinkers and potheads are also those most into the clean-air and anti-smoking issues.

Basically they're into forcing everyone else to breath clean but then do something far worse themselves.

Dr. Mordrid

[az]

Excuse my ignorance, but what happened with jord, why isn't he here any more, and why do people seem to dislike him?

AZ

[The PIT]

I wondered where he'd gone too and he hasn't done anything to upset me.

[Greebe]

as for Jord...

http://forums.murc.ws/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32627

[Fat Tone]

I'm an ardent anti-smoker and so have never had a drag on any kind of cigarette, but I'm told there are other ways of enjoying pot (in drinks & food) So that may satisfy some objectors.

As to legalisation, yes please do, but then have some controls on usage, - it should be a total ban wrt driving (which wouldn't be a bad thing for alcohol anyway - it would stop a lot of people drinking to what they think is the legal limit and thus taking chances).

T.

[GNEP]

As to legalisation, yes please do, but then have some controls on usage,

Tony,

That's exactly what I was trying to get at before (albeit unsuccessfully!)

In addition, legalisation would allow companies to accept that people will do it, and put the necessary controls in place to openly and honestly prevent people being spaced out at work (much like many firms do with alcohol)

Also stoned-driving tests would have less stigma attached.

PS. Space-cakes (esp. with chocolate) are v. nice, although tend to be quite slow acting and will probably knock you out for a day. And you might not know you are having any.

[Lizzard[MPE]]

Originally posted by The PIT


Sorry don't follow this if someones spaced out at work they can be risk to there fellow employees. Making it legal won't alter this fact it's more likely to make it more common. The next question is which drug next will be on the list to be legalised.

Companies seem quite slack over pissed workers at work or will be until someone gets killed then they'll be a little head hunt of course.

i think they should treat pot like they do alcohol. you cant drink on the job you cant smoke on the job.. end of story. that way there wouldnt be a huge chance of something bad happening. and i think they should make the alcohol Age limit younger. the reason drinking when i was a kid was so popular is because it was something bad to do.. getting ****ed up, something we werent allowed to do. i think when the limit is younger or there is no limit in other countries i think kids are more responsible with it.. they dont binge drink like the US kids do.

[Sasq]

18 in Australia, I was drinking from 14 in controled conditions.

While I do binge drink at times, on the whole people get over it younger also the way the drivers licence system is set up we have a 0.00 limit for people under the age of 19... so they get a whole year of being able to drink legally but not drive