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[thop]

ok there are ~10% foreigner in germany. even with the numbers you gave (1-2 for europeans, 4-6 for arabs) it will take hundreds of years for the foreigners (i'm not even talking about arabs) to rule germany.
but there is a fundemantal flaw in your idea. while it maybe true that arabs in arabian countries have 4-6 kids, they DONT in germany. maybe the first gerneration that comes here brings 5 kids. but those kids go to school in germany, they have german friends etc. etc. of course they still have a connection to their home culture (which is good), but eventually they will adapt to the german lifestyle (now dont tell me thats not true, i see it every day). that means 1-2 kids. and the next generation after them will be germans with a loose connection to their grandfathers culture, and the generation after them are just regular germans who (maybe) just don't look german.

[Vlip]

That since you and your friends and most of Europeans are going to have 1-2 children while your North African neighbours will have more than 6, it'll take 4 generations for them to become the majority. This means that your grandchild will learn the Sharia as part of his law studies.

That's where you make a fundamental error.

Immigrants families birth rate are not a factor of their ethnics, nor their religion and even less so their culture. It's a factor of well being.

The Italians were well known to reproduce like "rabbits" when those immigration waves scarred the hell out of middle Europe.
People made the same equation than you.
The Italian second generation immigrants have almost exactly the same birth rate than your average Swiss.
Exactly the same happened for all the other etnies (from whatever religion) who installed themselves in Switzerland.

So, appart from petty Racism, I don't see how you could claim that somehow the "evil" arabs reproduction rate would not sink down pretty fast too.

[thop]

hey vlip, zwei idioten ein gedanke

ps. translation: great minds think alike.

[Dogbert]

Originally posted by thop
hey vlip, zwei idioten ein gedanke

ps. translation: great minds think alike.

Go to Paris my friends, you'll learn something new there.

[Vlip]

We'll see what happens when 50% of your parlament is filled with muslims... It's won't be swiss anymore. Start learning the sharia. Oh, and Marceilles is in France, but it isn't French anymore. Ask the French and they'll tell you.

Yes, and in 1856 they'd tell you Marseille is an Italian city.

Yet hundred year later they still spoke their own slang of french, still eat the same food and still have the same culture.

thop: Plus ou moins ce que je pensais (I'm Swiss-French, not Swiss-German )

[thop]

paris is not europe.

[Dogbert]

and I'm not THAT stupid.

[Dogbert]

Paris isn't ha ? And Rome ?

[Dogbert]

What about London ? Marceilles ?

[Goc]

I don't see what your problem is kV? What liberalism bullshit?
Frankly, I don't intend to diss everyone that wasn't born in my hometown and decides to live in it. If they will assimilate someone it certainly ain't gonna be me. Society has a way of "reconfiguring" itself as it goes along. Big shifts don't happen over night. Even if that assimilation you guys are talking about happens sometime in the future I'm dead certain that I'll be DEAD by then so I guess I won't care much about what's going on. People that will stay behind will have their own choice of what to do with that problem.

Also I don't intend spending my time banging my head against the wall because some foreigner decided to move in next door. I'll simply try to use the time I have in the best way possible and raise my kids with a normal frame of mind that will allow them to do the same. Everyone has a choice to do what they please if it is in boundaries of normal human behaviour and is legally justified...

I can't believe I decided to post in this thread at all. I knew how it will finish. Just as any other thread like this one finished before. I really don't need someone to call me stupid and unintelligent because I disagree with him on certain topic.

I'm off to more happier topics... Enjoy yourselves!

[thop]

dogbert, we see your idea. but it just doesnt work out

PPS. oke so we have 5 citys. do you want me to list the 100.000 city in europe that have no problem with arabs or whomever?
and btw. i still dont think it's a problem. it's not like they are 70% foreigners in paris and 30% french. and even if it was like that, arabs are human too last time i checked.

PPS. just got some news in: in kairo 90% are arabs! they are doomed.

[Vlip]

All cities who have been under the very same situation many time through history and yet are still the same as before.

You know Dogbert, I think your fear, as a Israeli, to see the poor Israeli-Arabs become majority in your parlament (which they eventually will) blurs your vision.

As you'll see, the reason why the Israeli Arabs reproduce like that is not due to their religion nor ethnie, just to their living standards.

[Dogbert]

See what's going on here in Israel. Don't say you didn't know when it'll come knocking at your door...

[Dogbert]

Dream on my friends. New York had a very rude wake up call, and they weren't even sleeping. You, on the other hand are sound asleep.

Your time will come, I don't think, I KNOW.

[KvHagedorn]

Europeans are dying out because they have no balls. They have no balls because they do not defend their people and culture. Vlip, try going to an African or Arab country and assimilating there and then tell me how global THEIR outlook is. And if I'm a racist, so be it.. at least I'm not a liar and have some honor left in my character. Pure democracy, by the way, is a ridiculous concept. Even in small groups like this one. Those who make long posts set up the ideas, and those who don't want to think let the aforementioned think for them, as we have seen above. The few who have the guts to post anything bordering on taboo thought are left to go it alone, with only the truth as their ally, though many silently agree with them. Human beings are like that. It is characteristic.