Reuters: 33 lbs of weapons grade Uranium seized....

[Dr Mordrid]

Pure survival.

The consequence is that you do what's necessary to prevail before your enemy does it to you. If you do otherwise you're likely to lose and your people will suffer the consequences.

Being politically correct during a war is one reason why we lost in VietNam. PC in VietNam? Yup. Much of the time guys in both VietNam and other countries involved in that conflict were under orders to only fire after than had been fired upon. This of course meant that some troops died before the other members of their units could return fire.

In short a lot of our guys were fighting with one hand tied behind their backs. Only later on were more agressive tactics employed, but by then it was too late.

Example:

During the VietNam war my best friend was stationed for a year at the USAF base in Udorn, Thainald. One night he was stationied in a guard tower at the end of a runway. He was under orders only to fire on enemy forces when given permission from the Thai commander. Sure enough one night some guerillas ran out of the woods and started placing charges at the base of the tower he was in.

It took the Thai commander until the last millisecond to give the order to shoot, and from what my friend says his first shot was near simultaneous with the order. Why was he so "impatient"? By the time the order was given the charges had been planted and one of the bad guys was wiring the firing box, so he was in no mood to wait

So close was the timing that the Thai commander wanted him brought up on charges for firing without permission. The US commander told the Thai commander where to go and then gave him directions

THAT is how you "fight" a PC war. Lesson learned.

Dr. Mordrid

[SpiralDragon]

now all that would not have been nesecery had the french and he US not been there in there in the first place

[Greebe]

Lordeee... Doc do you ever get the impression that these kids today have no clue as to what the cold war was all about?

[az]

About power.

AZ

[Greebe]

sigh... one thing I learned long ago is that 98% of everyone look for the negative in everything. Sad you rarely see anything positive

[KvHagedorn]

Originally posted by SpiralDragon
now all that would not have been nesecery had the french and he us not been their in there in the first place

Exactly how I feel about all the unwelcome Muslims trying to take over Europe by emigrating there en masse.. and the Europeans being too "civilized" and "PC" to do anything about saving their own necks.. not to say anything of their cultures and traditions and common brotherhood.. all of which must be sacrificed in the name of being "accepting of other cultures."

What a load of crock. Proves that women and liberals have no place in government.

[KvHagedorn]

P.S. .. now that the whole world is completely screwed up and there is nothing left worth caring about, I'm definitely past caring about what any of you think about the truth as I see it.. so you can take your coy rebuttals to my opinions straight to hell with you.

[Dogbert]

Actually Europe is doomed.
For the first time in the history of mankind, there are more old people than young people in Europe.
This means that a smaller part of the population will have to work and fund a larger part of the population (retired people).

It has happend because during the years, people in Europe have less and less children. Since this new model of economy cannot work too well, Europe *must* accept immigrants who'll bring more children so they could work and support the older population.

This older population, who are the original European residents will become a minority and eventually disappear through assimilation with the new generation.

[Dogbert]

A little clarification:
By 'doomen' I mean culturaly.

If now when some people say they're from 'South France' you can sometimes assume/understand they're from Algeria or Morocco.

In 2-3 generations, whn someone will say's he's from the north region of the great moroccan kingdom, you could assume / understand he's from the place formerly known as France.

[Joel]

And just like in VietNam we are facing yet another enemy that has no qualms with strapping a bomb to a child's back and then sending them into the middle of a group of soldiers or in this case the middle of a public place filled with innocent civilians and blowing them up. When facing that kind of enemy being PC can get you killed.

Joel

[GNEP]

As I see it, it's not about not being "PC" - it's about not fighting fire with fire.

[thop]

no wrong answer, the logical consquence of this is: DONT START WAR.

[GT98]

Originally posted by thop
no wrong answer, the logical consquence of this is: DONT START WAR.

only problem is this is impossible to do...

[GT98]

Originally posted by Dogbert
Actually Europe is doomed.
For the first time in the history of mankind, there are more old people than young people in Europe.
This means that a smaller part of the population will have to work and fund a larger part of the population (retired people).

It has happend because during the years, people in Europe have less and less children. Since this new model of economy cannot work too well, Europe *must* accept immigrants who'll bring more children so they could work and support the older population.

This older population, who are the original European residents will become a minority and eventually disappear through assimilation with the new generation.

Same thing is happening every where in "1st world" Nations...people who are economicy well off only have 2-3 kids at most, where as a disadvantaged country population will have bigger family due to lower success rate of a child reaching adulthood due to war and famine. I guess the more time you have on your hands not working is directly inverse to how much time you have sex?

I guess thats one of the biggest challenges that the Western world is going to have....a smaller population due to its economic success vs. bringing in immgrants to take up the slack and their views of the world/reglition being inverse from that of the host country. Almost sounds like we would have to pay people to have big familes to correct the situation...but that sounds too Orlwellenan for me

[SpiralDragon]

first of all THERE IS NOTHING POSITIVE ABOUT WAR.... wether you are off to fight sadam or the devil himself there is nothing POSITIVE about it....... when one side wins a war that is great and dandy positive for that site... but not for the other..... and not for any who get ingured or killed.. including their freinds and family.....


secondly it is pretty obvious that the lot of you in here know absolutely nothing about Islam... Joel and KvHagedorn this is mostly directed to you....

it is every ones human right to relocate (immigrate) any where he/she damn pleases.... the world is getting globalized so deal with it..... especially since the idea of globalization originated from the west......

but the hatred that you have shown here for Muslims (the both of you) is really disgusting..... Joel: i would appreciate it if you would not portray EVERY Muslim as a person with a bomb strapped to him and ready to blow it up any where they like.... because that is simply not true..... the fact that some stupid fundamentalists do it don’t mean that all of them do it........ think of the fundamentalists as the KKK ..... are all Americans like the KKK? i don’t think so...... so not all Arabs/Muslims are like those idiots who blow themselves up......

its true that i tend to look at what is negative but i do look at the positive and only speek of the negative so as it many be avoided...... where as most of you here tend to focus on what is different and disregard totally what is similar...... and as it is human nature to shun what is different we fall in to the cycle of hatred and IGNORANCE.......


does the bible/torah/quraan not teach that we are ALL the decedents of Adam and Eve... that we are ALL the children of God.... Or do you just choose to ignore that when you are reading?

You see the problem with fundamentalism is that it grows because there are people like you who are willing to make any one who is “different” from you feel like a second class citizen…. Treat every one equally; another teaching of the holy books and of human rights….. rights that, as far as I can see in this thread, are ignored by the same ppl who are calling for them…….. I find that very ironic and disgusting……