The Beltway Sniper speaks....

[KvHagedorn]

Kennedy and Biden are crawling slime. I remember their McCarthy-Style confirmation hearings for Robert Bork, where they shouted down perhaps the greatest legal mind this country has yet produced, blatantly and with little regard for the fact that all America was watching.

Posse Comitatus is in force so long as it is not "for the purpose of executing the laws," and this act cannot negate the Constitution which precedes it and all other law within these borders. If there were an executive order declaring this man a terrorist, a national enemy within our borders, and giving the Army expressed instructions to hunt him down like a dog and kill or capture him on sight, the Army would hardly be "executing the laws," and those concerned would merely be fulfilling their oaths to protect the United States from "all enemies, foreign and domestic "

The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Which, as expressly enumerated in the Declaration of Independence: WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness...

This terrorist, having threatened this right for the general populace, threatens the constitution, thereby enabling all armed forces to do their duty to defend us against him.

You see? don't ever say something is impossible, because it isn't.. at least not for someone willing to lead.

[High_Jumbllama]

The loss of quality of life to catch a person(if he/she can really be called that) that has killed less than a dozen people makes it not worth it. One has to consider the advantages and disadvantages of something. As for catching him, the military and various goverment agencies were never able to find Osama. There is no way in hell they'd be able to find a guy that they know next to nothing about and what they do know they are not certain about.

[KvHagedorn]

What "loss of quality of life?" People are already afraid to go outside or send their kids to school.. I would say the loss in quality of life has already occurred.

[Dogbert]

You know what scares me the most ?
If one person can do so much damage (like you said 150,000 kids staying at home also means some parents not going to work etc). What could an organised grup like one of the many terrorist cells all around the world do...?
4 people working in coordination without using any usual/tracable from of communication could really wreak havoc on the economy of a state.

Seriously, if the Arabs here were 'better' terrorists (infrastructure wise), the Israeli economy would have been 10 times worse by now.

[Umfriend]

One might even think that since the Arabs/Palestinians have not yet destryed the state of Israel, apparantly most of them are rather peacefull and not that hostile towards it at all.....

Or is this way to strange a thought?

Umf

[Dogbert]

Hehe, try counting how many suicide bombers operated in the last few years. Then start counting how many people operated them, prepared the explosives, drove them to their target etc.
You'll be shocked by the number.

Then you can add the Hizbolla, parts of the Egyptian army (interesting news bit - last ammunition tunnel blown up in Rafiach by the IDF caused a nearby Egyptian army post to become full of smoke...) etc. etc. etc.

[thop]

this topic is going into the wrong direction. lets keep it on-topic shall we?

12 people in an area of millions is nothing to be worried about statistically. You might as well never leave your house if those kind odds bother you.

i'm with womabt on this one. during the time he killed the first 9 people 22 were killed by "regular" murder in that area.

[Umfriend]

There are way too many, agreed. But how many were not involved? On trying to count, I guess you'd be closer to the truth than me.

Didn't get the bit on the tunnel, what should I glean from that?

Umf

[Dogbert]

The tunnel was used to smuggle weapons and explosives from Egypt to the Palestinian side. When the army detonated explosives in the Palestinian side of the tunnel, lot's of smoke came out of an Egyptian army post in the other side of the border (Egypt). This shows what kind of 'peace' Israel has with Egypt.
Don't you just love this formula of "Land for Peace" ? They get the land (Sinai) but fail to deliver the peace.

[Umfriend]

When was it used for that last?
Umf (this is geting off topic w2much, won't continue after reply on my question)

[Dogbert]

It was used recently and there are many more undiscovered tunnels.

Back to topic. See how much damage one sniper who killed a few people does to a whole stade which is bigger than all Israel ?
Now try to imagine what's going on here on an everyday-anywhere basis.

The last bus explosion took more lives in 1 day then the sniper did in a week.

[Dr Mordrid]

Well.....interesting stuff from todays news conference;

1. confirmation that the shooting Monday was a sniper event.

2. cops & feds are reaching out to the "immigrant community" for help.

IMO #2 ups the odds that we are dealing with offshore people, especially after the leaks that the times he's called the hotline his voice had a heavy accent of some kind and that his writings have major grammatical errors.

Dr. Mordrid

[The PIT]

Of course it could all be a piss take to throw the police off as much as possible.

[ElDonAntonio]

Originally posted by Dogbert
It was used recently and there are many more undiscovered tunnels.

Back to topic. See how much damage one sniper who killed a few people does to a whole stade which is bigger than all Israel ?
Now try to imagine what's going on here on an everyday-anywhere basis.

The last bus explosion took more lives in 1 day then the sniper did in a week.

Pretty convenient to omit the detail that since September 2000 there has been twice as many Palestinian casualties than Israeli, and that the whole Palestinian population is going through a humanitarian crisis while Israel builds new illegal colonies and diverts 80% of the water to their land. It's a very large topic though, so if you want to discuss it, start another thread.
Dr. Morbid, please don't associate Al Qaeda with Hizbollah. Al Qaeda is a terrorist group. Hizbullah is a group that liberated Lebanon from the Israeli invasion (although they got in return the Syrian invasion, but it's still a little better).

[Dr Mordrid]

Hizbullah is on the US list of international terrorist groups, and for good reason.

They're responsible for anti-U.S. terrorist attacks including the suicide truck-bombing of the U.S. embassy and U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut in Oct. 1983 and the US embassy Annex in Beirut in Sept. 1984.

They also hijacked a plane traveling from Athens to Rome in Sept. 1984, killing an American soldier. Hizbullah members Imad Fayez Mugniyah, Hassan Izz-Al-Din, and Ali Atwa were indicted for the crime in the U.S and were placed on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list on Oct. 10, 2001.

As far as I'm concerned they can fry in hell with Al Qaeda.

I'll tell you something else: if/when we go after Iraq they had better not launch any of those 6,000 rockets they have aimed at northern Israel or they'll find out what a Daisy Cutter can do

Dr. Mordrid