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Hi Doc
Is this related to the request by the US to use Fylingdales as an early warning centre.
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Yes it will be. Those giant golf balls are an interesting little "feature" in one of our more beautiful national parks... so I suppose any new bits won't make much of a difference visually.
Not too far from our farm in the North Riding...DM says: Crunch with Matrox Users@ClimatePrediction.netComment
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call me stupid but what country in this world will attack (or even think about it) the US with missiles? maybe they expect aliens to arrive? that won't help against terrorists, thats for sure. IMVHO thats money thrown out of the window (or actually into the military industry's throat).Last edited by thop; 17 December 2002, 07:23.no matrox, no matroxusers.Comment
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It's a safeguard agains offshore launches by a rogue nation or terrorist cells. Believe it or not some of these organizations are intent on purchasing second hand subs and even mounting theater missiles on what would amount to trawlers.
My guess is they aren't getting them to go fishing.
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They will be quite happy if they will be able to use them for fishing because if not for fishing they won't be using them at all! Nobody will attack the US with conventional full scale war tactics.no matrox, no matroxusers.Comment
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In case you hadn't noticed full scale war tactics isn't their "thing". They are into hit-n-run tactics. Problem is that with WMD's you only need to get in ONE good shot, and that could easily be launched from an old diesel submarine or decent sized ship.
The antimissile systems are geared towards intercepting that shot before it can do any real damage. They are not geared to stop a mass attack...yet.
Even so we still have to do more in terms of checking cargo containers as well. As it is now they could ship in a nuke and have it blow sometime after its unloaded, and only a few percent of containers are inspected.
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That's right.
Just look at the SAM attack on an Israeli passenger jet last month. This was a perfect example of a terror cell getting hold of some hardware and using it.
If cells get hold of short or medium range missiles then they WILL use them - it's not a matter of IF it's a matter of WHEN.
There's always two fronts to this sort of situation
1) buildinging up good counter terrorism measures
2) building up good defences for when the counter terrorism fails
It's a better (and cheaper) alternative to being pre-emptive everywhere at once and ending up in a conventional war with half the planet.It's easy to die in the past. Staying alive is much more difficult!Comment
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Exactly...and given that several suitcase nukes are missing from the former USSR you never know where they'll end up. Some renegade nuclear tech could be stuffing them into a small theater missile for just such a use. That or trying to import it as I noted before.
See the movie "Peacemaker".
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One day the US will be so busy preventing terrorism and hunting terrorists that they won't be doing anything else
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Meanwhile they will start taking on easier targets; like Bonn
Also: http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...eaking_10.html
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Bonn isn't the capital anymore, so i don't care too much
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And that report seems, er, confused to say the least...
Do they mean that Libyan missiles could hit Cyprus and UK troops (feasible) or that N. Korean ones could hit London? There is some difference between the two....
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LOLOriginally posted by GNEP
And that report seems, er, confused to say the least...
Do they mean that Libyan missiles could hit Cyprus and UK troops (feasible) or that N. Korean ones could hit London? There is some difference between the two....
Think they ment N.Korean missiles bought by Libya
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we had this discussion before. And SDI is just as pointless no as it was back then!In case you hadn't noticed full scale war tactics isn't their "thing". They are into hit-n-run tactics. Problem is that with WMD's you only need to get in ONE good shot, and that could easily be launched from an old diesel submarine or decent sized ship.
a terrorist or rouge state is not going to launch a missile from a sub. Its too costly/sales are too tightly monitored/requires too much training to use AND its simpler to deliver your nuke in a container bound for the port in question or a suicide bomber - New Yourk, for example.
A sailor in a sub couldnt fart within 100 miles of the american seaboard without the Orions dropping torps over them - PERIOD. There will be no rouge state nuking the USA that way - Dr M you should know batter! - For gods sake, sonar is now so sensitive that in many cases a good rig can not only identify the class of the sub, but the actual craft!
Its just as big a waste of space as the last time... the only difference is that the USSR wont try to keep up this time.
Do you honnestly think that this would be ANY use against an undetected platform and theatre nukes/WMD? could it identify the target, classify, coordinate with god knows how many agencies , fire and actually hit a theatre grade missile? My Arse! the flight time would be no more than 30 minutes - MAXIMUM. ICBMs it might defend against - noone else has them apart from China and the USSR... This is an attempt to render the policies of MAD useless.
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