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  • #31
    Originally posted by Greebe
    Chuck I never said SRB's... the shuttle itself runs off of LO2/LH2.

    Yes, Yes, Yes!
    The fuel cells that provide electrical power for the shuttle, yes Greebe, you are correct. However, for orbital attitude maneuvers and the like, the more potent, Hydrazine is used. Take it from someone who knows.

    BTW, believe it or not, I do work for NASA, on satellites for close to 5 years now. I did my BS in Aerospace Engineering.

    So in short, you both are correct. From different points of view.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Byock
      Uh, Warp 9. that would be 9 times the speed of light, I think.
      No, silly Byock. Warp 9 is 1516x speed of light.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Greebe
        Chuck I never said SRB's... the shuttle itself runs off of LO2/LH2.

        Yes, Yes, Yes!
        Well, of course, my expanded answer is that I took your statement to be that there was no danger from toxic fuel in the shuttle debris.
        There is.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by bsdgeek
          No, silly Byock. Warp 9 is 1516x speed of light.

          Really?

          "So Star Trek's writers invented "warp speed." By stretching out the space behind the spaceship and compressing the space in front, "warp speed" actually brings the destination closer, making it unnecessary to travel faster than the speed of light. "

          I found this here.


          But it still kills my answer too.
          "I dream of a better world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned."

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          • #35
            cant you just fly?
            The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England

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            • #36
              chickens don't do that

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Byock
                Really?

                "So Star Trek's writers invented "warp speed." By stretching out the space behind the spaceship and compressing the space in front, "warp speed" actually brings the destination closer, making it unnecessary to travel faster than the speed of light. "

                I found this here.


                But it still kills my answer too.
                Actually the federation ships (others unknown) create a series of constantly forming collapsing asymetric subspace fields. A single field itself moves at a fraction of the speed of light. The fields never exceed the speed of light in relation to the next outer field. The total effect of thousands of these fields pushes the ship. Sorry for geeking out. Pathetically, I must say I read the technical manual. Oh and there is no formula. The graph was made up and was constantly adjusted by the writers depending on what they happend to write for a show. Voyager's shuttles went Warp 10. The future Federation ships went Warp 15.

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                • #38
                  In one episode, the Enterprise reaches the edge of the galaxy. There is some ridiculous force field that marks the "edge" of the galaxy, for some reason. I don't know about any dumbass force fields, but the outer rim of our galaxy is about 20,000 light years away.. anyone want to calculate how long this journey would take, even at say, warp 11?

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                  • #39
                    Back then the speed was (Warp Factor) ^ 3. So 11 ^ 3 or 1331 times the speed of light.

                    So 20000/1331=15.0262960180315552216378662659654 Years. The writers never paid attention to the speed scales. Like I said they kept coming up with their own.

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                    • #40
                      That's what I mean.. Kirk and company would just jaunt around the galaxy like they were going to the next town on a road trip. That 15 year journey was completed in a couple of weeks, tops.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by mmp121
                        However, for orbital attitude maneuvers and the like, the more potent, Hydrazine is used.
                        Actually, the hydrazine fuels the APUs that provide hydraulic power for the control surfaces, the landing gear, and main engine pivoting.

                        Orbital Maneuvering Engines (OMEs) located in the aft end of the "pods" on each side of the tail. Forty-four little "thrusters" around the nose and in the two tail pods provided orbital orientation and use the propellants monomethylhydrazine and dinitrogen Tetroxide.
                        Last edited by Brian R.; 3 February 2003, 20:26.

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                        • #42
                          I'm refering to the SSME's... or is NASA just blowing smoke?
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                          • #43
                            BTW the point I'm trying to make here is that NASA spokesperson claimed the toxic residue was from the main engines (SSME's) and that is just not the case.

                            I do know they use other fuels for control thrusters... and no, was NEVER refering to the fuel cells... LOL
                            "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

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