MILLennium G800 soon

[Nappe1]

Parhelia is a codename... probably not a marketing name...

[Ant]

Actually they are going to name it after their very favouritist Matrox fansite, yes you know <a href="http://www.mlrfutai.demon.co.uk/">which one I mean</a>.

Damn it Jim we're a user group not a fansite!

[Nappe1]

btw, Matrox just launched THIS:

Introducing Matrox's new third-generation MMS products:
The Matrox G450 X2 MMS and Matrox G450 X4 MMS
Powerful half-length, full-height PCI cards, including the world's smallest four-chip graphics accelerator

Montreal, Canada, February 27, 2002—Matrox Graphics Inc. today announced the new Matrox G450 X2 Multi-Monitor Series (MMS), and the Matrox G450 X4 MMS graphics cards, the newest additions to the MMS line of products to provide outstanding multi-monitor support and unparalleled image quality to the financial and corporate markets.

As the world's smallest quad output card, the forward-looking Matrox G450 X4 MMS, along with the Matrox G450 X2 MMS, are half-length, full-height PCI cards that meet the size requirements of the next generation of smaller desktop systems, while still fitting into today's standard desktops. Both the Matrox G450 X2 MMS dual configuration and the Matrox G450 X4 MMS quad drive each display with the full power of its own dedicated graphics chip and memory-unlike other cards, which rely on two chips for four outputs.

Using only tried and tested technology, the latest MMS cards are based on the Matrox G450 chip, providing a solid base for the most stable and reliable dual and quad cards available. With over five million units sold, the Matrox G450 has a proven track record of delivering the ultimate in image quality and 2D acceleration required by today's business professionals.

"MMS products are internationally acclaimed for their reliability and stability," says Mitch Furman, Senior Product Manager, Display Technologies, Matrox Graphics Inc. "One of the key factors in achieving rock-solid stability and reliability in our products lies in the fact that Matrox only introduces new MMS graphics technologies and drivers after they have been proven on earlier designs."

The Matrox G450 X2 MMS and the Matrox G450 X4 MMS support analog outputs at resolutions of up to 2048 x 1536 on each display, or digital outputs at a maximum resolution of 1280 x 1024 per display. With a total of 64MB of RAM, both the dual and quad configurations have a maximum DAC speed of 360 MHz, and boast a Multi TV-Out feature, making them capable of outputting to two or four TVs respectively. Easy to use, these graphics accelerators also support a customizable unattended installation, which allows users to create a setup executable file, presetting any Matrox PowerDesk features for a standardized setup across all workstations. Users can also install four of the G450 X4 MMS cards in their system to power up to 16 digital flat panel displays under Microsoft® Windows® NT, and up to 10 displays in Windows 2000 and Windows XP. With the continuation of Matrox's unified driver strategy, users will still be able to rely on a single driver for all Matrox cards.

The Matrox G450 X2 MMS and the Matrox G450 X4 MMS also come with the same break-out cables as the current G200 MMS and Millennium G550 Dual DVI cards, so consumers can switch from analog to digital outputs with ease.

Availability
Samples of the new Matrox G450 X2 MMS and the Matrox G450 X4 MMS graphics cards will be available in Q2 '02. As with all MMS cards, the Matrox G450 X2 MMS and the G450 X4 MMS cards will enjoy a long life cycle, unlike many competing solutions, which are short-lived. The current G200 MMS card will coexist with the G450 X2 and X4 MMS cards, allowing for a long transition period for all current MMS customers. Corporate customers please call: 1-800-361-1408. Retail customers please call: 1-877-628-9669, or visit www.shopmatrox.com.

About Matrox
Matrox Graphics Inc. is the only graphics chip designer and graphics card manufacturer who draws on 25 years of industry experience to provide customers with state-of-the-art 2D, 3D and digital video acceleration, vibrant image quality and real-world functionality. A quality and innovation leader, Matrox has been recognized with over 1,000 international awards for the Millennium, Marvel, Productiva and Mystique product lines. Headquartered in Montreal, Canada, Matrox is a privately held company with international offices in the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy and Hong Kong. Information about Matrox products, drivers, technical support and more can be found at www.matrox.com/mga/

and this for real.

http://www.matrox.com/mga/media_center/press_rel/2002/g450_x2x4mms.cfm

[Ant]

Yeah I read that somewhere ealier, www.murc.ws

[Nappe1]

well, I check that 3 hours ago, but it wasn't there back then... so just bad luck that I didn't see that.

Great, Matrox Those keeps Quadro NVS series cleary behind.

[NetSnake]

Actually they are going to name it after their very favouritist Matrox fansite, yes you know which one I mean.

Damn it Jim we're a user group not a fansite!

HAHAHAHA

[Tempest]

Ant,
I hope you don't mind me using the WWW address of your fansi- eh, user group on the wallpapers
ps. I've got my m3D & LN2 cooling system ready... So where's the FAQ
<small>Edit: For those who do not know what the **** I'm babbling about, take a look at m3D Centre's guestbook =)</small>

[DuRaNgO]

"Damn it Jim we're a user group not a fansite!"

Doctor----Ant, I have-----to get------that------new card-------in------my box---------now or I'll--------blow-------a-------gasket!

[Pace]

Matrox Zenithal

Soon™.

[Pace]

Pyramidal

Did I hear someone say Matrox are in bed with Microsoft over DX9?

[Pace]

Ant's a sun dog!

<a href="http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk"><img src="images/space.gif" width="10" height="10" border="0"></a>Guess what card is best for playing Halo?

[Nappe1]

Pace: STOP IT NOW!

anyways, did anyone wonder about G450 x4 MMS board design?? it should be normal wide and half lenght PCI board. How on earth Matrox has been capable putting 4xG450, 64MB memory and all needed (4x64BitDatabus & controll traces..) traces on that board?? I think that board design must be ernomous multilayer.

and besides... again, a piece of Parhelia: just calculate 4x64Bits and you got a number of all databits those four G450 needs to access memory. and if thier board design is even near what they had on G200MMS, they have all four chips located side by side. Like this:

---------------
|  CC           |
|  CC           |
-|||||||||-----

- C indicates the Chip.

Now replace all those C's with one huge C and you have 256Bits data path with four channels (64 Bits per channel) all running on DDR mode.

This would be:
A) a bit cheaper to build because almost same PCB could be used for four G450 chips or for Parhelia using the whole 256bits data path.
B) 256 Bit data path is awfully inefective without good crossbar like memory controller. This way they would have 4 four channels which improves efficient greatly.


I think Matrox has made first consumer market card with 256 bit data bus. and if I guess right, this thing is going to fly. GF4 looks fast as snail's sh*t compared to this.

EDIT: memory amount corrected, thanks to rubank!

[mdhome]

Originally posted by Nappe1


I think Matrox has made first consumer market card with 256 bit data bus. and if I guess right, this thing is going to fly. GF4 looks fast as snail's sh*t compared to this.

Hello Nappe,
Nice to see you are as enthusiastic as ever

Regards MD

[rubank]

Nappe,
go easy on the Koskenkorva.

It´s 64 Mb total memory, not 4x64.

rubank

[Nappe1]

rubank: thanks for correcting, you are right...

but still that is a lot of traces on that size PCB...

EDIT: and actually doesn't change situation much because number of memory chips doesn't change. just the total amount of memory.

hmmh... well, Kossu is little bit too heavy for me, so one bottle of cider has to do the trick