The Matrix Reloaded

[GT98]

Originally posted by chaoliang
I have one question:
Can human beings, animals and plants on the earth survive without sunlight?

I dint think so, Thats the reason why 95% of earths population was wiped out when the Asteroid struck earth and took out the dinosaurs. I would assume that the humans had a plan to clear the skies after destroying the machines.

The big problem I have is after watching the AniMatrix is how the machines survived getting nuked, since Nuclear Weapons produce large amounts of EMP, though shielding is possible to protect electronics, I don't think it would be enough to protect them from a Several Megaton Blasts that Humans used on them.

[chaoliang]

As far as I know, artificial lights can't replace sunlight and that's why people feel depressed if they can't see sunlight for a certain period of time, say, serveral days or weeks. So I guess that people will get all crazy long before the energy of machines get exhausted.

[Wulfman]

nope. normal lightbulbs cannot replace sunlight, but there are lamps which can do that.

mfg
wulfman

[Gurm]

UV lamps. The vats the humans live in are bathed in UV light.

- Gurm

[DentyCracker]

Ok I've watched it 3 times. I liked it even more than the first because I thought the story was better developed. Can't wait for the conclusion, which has a lot to live up to.

[VJ]

Originally posted by Wombat
The problem with your "reincarnation" is that for one, people who reject the matrix, and wake up, apparently have a body exactly matching their avatar. Proof? No, but extremely high coincidence if you're right.

Yes... but wasn't there some scene in the first movie, where Morpheus says something like "not everyone can be freed/can reject the Matrix ?". If so, it could be that those that are living a reincarnated life, cannot be freed...
(but it might be too far fetched)

Man, do we really have to wait till November !

GT98: 95% of the population was wiped out when an asteroid stuck, because the ecosystem collapsed (plants need light for photosynthesis, animals eat plants, ...). But I wouldn't immediatly say that humans (or animals) can not survive in darkness (with artificial light, as not to go crazy), provided they have food/water...

Jörg

[leech]

Originally posted by Gurm
UV lamps. The vats the humans live in are bathed in UV light.

- Gurm

Perhaps that's only affected on a small percentage of people in the Matrix, and that's why people of our era take a lot more anti-depressants than any other period of time?

Leech

[leech]

I'd like everyone to know that it's only a THEORY that an asteroid struck and destroyed 95% of the population. There's other evidence/theories that in fact earth was where the asteroid belt is now, and that in fact a planetary body from out of our solar system collided with it. Or that the planet exploded. Either way, take a look at books by Zecheriah Sitchin or Richard Hoaglund (http://www.sitchin.com and http://www.enterprisemission.com)

Leech

[Technoid]

and the "evidence" for that asteroid hit is shaky at its best

[leech]

Originally posted by Technoid
and the "evidence" for that asteroid hit is shaky at its best

Exactly! It's funny how a theory becomes the ONE thing they always teach you in school, even though there are always opponents to that THEORY.

Leech

[Gurm]

Actually, there's a LOT of mathematical and astronomical evidence to support the idea that we USED to have 10 planets in the solar system.

- Gurm

[Belwarrior]

Off-topic
The asteroid belt after Mars is thought to be a planet which broke up along its path..

In anycase, there are plants that can survive without sunlight.. moss, lichen(?)... and plants and small animals seem to adapt to changes faster than larger animals (eg, humans but over time humans do change)..Hmmm.. no sunlight -> a new Ice Age -> interesting settings for the "Real World".

In anycase, cockroaches and rats should be surviving

[Dr Mordrid]

Actually the asteroid belt is thought to be debris that never coalesced into a single body because of Jupiters early formation and gravitational influence.

Its total mass is a bit less than that of the moon so a body of that mass would very likely have survived large impacts without being destroyed, just as the moon has. Impact is about the only mechanism whereby you could destroy a planet or planetoid.

Even the collision of two equal massed objects isn't enough to destroy either; they just break apart then re-coalesce into a new body or bodies. Earth and the moon are perfect examples of this type of planetary reformation.

Dr. Mordrid

[Umfriend]

Indeed Dr. M. I think Gurm was hinting at a 10th planet outside of Pluto's/Neptunes's orbit, which could be deducted to exist form irregularities in the known planets' orbits. A "small" black-hole has been suggested as well, but I do not know the plauibility of that suggestion. Others BTW are suggesting there are only 8 planets in the sense that Pluto could very well be a moon of Neptune gone astray.

On topic: Matrix? Havent seen it.

[RedRed]

/off topic/

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ip_010130.html

intresting article re the status of Pluto.....

RedRed