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[az]

Originally posted by Nowhere
Chrono, I think that many people from, lets say, India for example would be equally shocked about eating cows as you are about eating cats/dogs.

AZ

[Brian Ellis]

Thanks, Sasq, I missed out kangaroo from my list. It is delicious. I also missed out camel and donkey, which are also good.

Also, I love the raw tuna in Japan, but this would be anathema for many cultures -- never could get to grips with the green horseradishy stuff, wabasi (???), though.

[Sasq]

ahh it does inhance the flavour of sashimi. everyday way to use wasabi is to mix a little bit of it in the soy sauce (mix real well). Brings out the flavour nicely.

Dan

[agallag]

Originally posted by KvHagedorn
I don't want to pick out my lobster, either.. I would rather not develop any sort of personal relationship with something that is about to be slaughtered for my dinner. Sorry, but maybe that's just me.

So you're saying you wouldn't want to meet the meat?

[az]

I for one welcome the day we can grow meat in test tubes.

AZ

[Nowhere]

Originally posted by KvHagedorn
I don't want to pick out my lobster, either.. I would rather not develop any sort of personal relationship with something that is about to be slaughtered for my dinner. Sorry, but maybe that's just me.

Besides, dogs and cats are intelligent, emotionally developed higher mammals. Who could say it would affect them the same way to slaughter a dog or cat as it would to catch and eat a fish? It's just not the same thing..

Not the same? Are you sure?

This reminds me about the horror of all kids in PRL during Christmas. It was a MUST to have a carp on Christmas supper. The ruling (communists) party, although not very pro religious, just HAD TO comply the demands for milions of carps, or they would fall much sooner . Unfortunetelly, there just wasn't any infrastructure present that would make it possible to contain milions of (dead) carps in proper condition. There also wasn't any to transport them to shops in very short time. So most of the people just had to get them some time before Christmas. Most of people also didn't bother to kill them and put in the freezer just to unfreeze them couple days later. So the poor carps were kept alive in the bathtub usually (and "next-door neighbour help" was very common: "in our bathtub we keep all carps, in yours we all have a bath") awaiting their destiny...
But you can imagine that kids in the meantime usually made friends with the cute creatures (and future Christmas dinner...)...and when the final day arrived "why they can't stay with us?"

The side effect of this is the "tradition" of buying carps alive for Christmas...because "they taste better" - bs, some more fancy dish probably, but not the overwrought carp only fried on oil.
Please tell me that in EU there's some law that prohibits tormenting carps...

[Jon P. Inghram]

Brain's are horribly unhealthy, just from a nutritional standpoint, they're almost 100% cholesterol!

Originally posted by az
... but human brain is AFAIK quite healthy.

AZ

[DukeP]

Lol. Never eat anything too close to yourself - unless you are absolutely sure, that its healthy when its slaughter.

Diseases travel only (mostly) between next of kind

Parasites are a whole other game of balls..

~~DukeP~~

[ALBPM]

Humans...the Other White Meat

[Jon P. Inghram]

Nah, most human skeletal muscles are red meat, I think.

[Dr Mordrid]

Yes...red ; and rather tough, so slow cook it for a long time before consuming

I actually prefer to hunt my own meats; deer, waterfowl, small game etc. Woodchuck, rabbit and squirrel are particular favorites.

Dr. Mordrid

[az]

Jon & Duke P: I know it's dangerous to eat human flesh because of diseases, etc. I just read somewhere that brain was quite healthy because it contained idunno Just to clarify: I would never eat human flesh except in extreme situations (airplane crash, etc...).

Nowhere: It's forbidden to buy living fish (or other livestock) here with the purpose of eating it, and I believe that's the way the whole EU has it. There are however shops that keep fish alive until you buy them, and then kill them for you (but they at least o it professional and quick.. I hope).

I don't like fish.

AZ

[Ssin]

Originally posted by KvHagedorn
Well to most people here, cats and dogs are cared for almost like children, and the only people who eat children are evil witches like the one in Hansel and Gretel.

God only knows what those bits of meat in the eggrolls are.

Did you know that prior to eating dogs Chinese people use to have pigs as pet animals? Those animals are far more intelligent than dogs, only you don't see it because you're used to imagine them drooling in a pool of mud.

I don't even agree with you when you say that cats and dogs are the only animals capable of emotions and thinking. If you look at it they also are the only animals capable of having some of the humans diseases. The only reason you're saying this is that your mind (based on your cultural and educational background) wouldn't accept that as "civilised" that's all. If you would just step above that you'd understand that these people eat what they considere as food. Some people eat snakes and some other people pet snakes wich one is the most "normal" do you think?

I'm not saying eating cat or dog is a good thing, I'm just saying if you were out there you wouldn't draw the same conclusions, let alone that you wouldn't draw conclusions at all. So please don't judge because they do something that you wouldn't do. To them you're even stranger because you don't see your food living prior to eat it. How can you be sure your food is top fresh and nothing happened to him before you eat it?

[Ssin]

Originally posted by az
Jon & Duke P: I know it's dangerous to eat human flesh because of diseases, etc. I just read somewhere that brain was quite healthy because it contained idunno Just to clarify: I would never eat human flesh except in extreme situations (airplane crash, etc...).

Nowhere: It's forbidden to buy living fish (or other livestock) here with the purpose of eating it, and I believe that's the way the whole EU has it. There are however shops that keep fish alive until you buy them, and then kill them for you (but they at least o it professional and quick.. I hope).

I don't like fish.

AZ

Well I never thought of that. But if you think about it it's still allowed to go fish your own dinner (if you go on the allowed spot). Government (well where at live at least) even put some fishes in there from time to time so that the stock doesn't go empty.

[KvHagedorn]

Ssin:

Did I say that cats and dogs are the ONLY animals with intelligence and feelings? I think not. I am really sick of having to defend myself when people accuse me of writing something I didn't.. READ WHAT I WROTE!!!

Did I know that pigs are smarter than dogs? Yes, I know all the arguments. Did I particularly exclude them from like consideration? No I did not!

What I did say in the line you quoted me on was that it was for the particular cultural reason we keep dogs and cats as pets and care for them as we would children that it is abhorrent to eat them. We are familiar with these animals as loyal friends, so is it any wonder that most people find it such an awful thing to slaughter them as food? I would imagine that someone who had kept pigs or horses would feel similarly towards eating pork or horsemeat.

Snakes and fish might be kept as pets, but you really can't ascribe the same kind of intelligence or feelings to these animals.