yuck

[GuchiGuh]

sizzle.....

[rylan]

Eww.. yeah recluse spider venom basically keeps dissolving/killing the flesh around the bite. nasty stuff

[Laurie]

The fellow that posted these on another board never did tell us if the hands were his......

Warning...sort of ugly...really ugly.....

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[Laurie]

Last one...day 10

[Tjalfe]

that looks really nasty!
is there no anti - venum / enzymes, which can stop the flesh from dissolving?

[M|x]

ouch! once again, im glad to live in norway. the only spiders we got, is the ones on the size of a coin. included the legs the only animal i can come up with who bites, and is lethal is the adder. not much of it. you got to get out in the forrest. and who are we kidding, im never in the forrset.

[Lizzard[MPE]]

OH MY ****ING GOD.


THANK **** I WENT TO THE HOSPITAL.

THAT IS GROSS.

[Greebe]

Think I just got bit by a Brown Recluse spider on my ankle... they are rampant around these parts often spanning 3"

If not then it was a just another mosquito... so it's either West Nile or more gross pics to come... tho that's doubtful... treated area with clear ammonia which neutralizes the sting of mosquito bites and Jelly fish stingers so it should work on this

Interestingly enough we also have a zillion of these toads that eat them whole

[cjolley]

Another good thing to put on bites is Meat Tenderizer.
If the poison is protein based the enzyme will destroy a lot of it.
Works very well on bee stings.
chuck

[Greebe]

eYup

[Technoid]

that guy with the thumb should have whent to a doctor and not photographing it

That looks like it will neve heal again

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by Technoid
that guy with the thumb should have whent to a doctor and not photographing it

That looks like it will neve heal again

It can heal, just acquire some maggots, they will eat the dead flesh. Once all the dead flesh is gone then remove the maggots and go about your regular healing, maggots work wonders.

[Goc]

Damn... This is too much...

[mutz]

Liz, you alright?

...good. That's all I stopped by for. I've seen that other stuff before. On my own leg.

YUCK!!!

[paulcs]

Originally posted by Lizzard[MPE]
the doc said it was a brown recluse. cos black widows leave two marks. and the black widow leaves one. and over itme the black widow bite gets better. where as the recluse bite gets worse. mine got worse.

did you take those pics? thats about what my foot looked like!!! when i was in the hospital

Oh wow. I am in NO way claiming that Liz was not bitten by a spider or attempting to minimize the severity of the bite, but there is reason to doubt it was a brown recluse. There is a lot of literature about the California brown recluse myth. Some of these articles were written by the same guy, Rick Vetter from UC Riverside, and he has issued the brown recluse challenge:

http://spiders.ucr.edu/challenge.html

From the University of California Statewide Integrated Pest Management Program (UC Davis):

... there are no populations of the brown recluse Loxosceles reclusa, in the state and fewer than 10 verified specimens have been collected over several decades in California. Yet people frequently relate stories in which they or someone they know was supposedly bitten by a brown recluse in California. This publication was written in response to the confusion that exists regarding brown recluse spiders in California.

Here is an article from the UC Riverside Department of Entomology site on the evil thumb pictures:

http://spiders.ucr.edu/hyperbole2003.html

And another article from UC Riverside on the brown recluse myth:

This website presents evidence for the lack of brown recluse spiders as part of the Californian spider fauna. Unfortunately, this contradicts what most Californians believe; beliefs that are born out of media-driven hyperbole and erroneous, anxiety-filled public hearsay which is further compounded by medical misdiagnoses.

http://spiders.ucr.edu/myth.html

Another article from the "Dermatology Online Journal ":

However, outside the natural range of these recluse species, the conviction that they are the etiological agents behind necrotic lesions of unknown origin is widespread, and most often erroneous. In some states such as California, unsubstantiated reports concerning recluse spider bites have taken on the status of "urban legend" leading to overdiagnosis and, therefore, inappropriate treatment.

http://dermatology.cdlib.org/DOJvol5num2/special/recluse.html

Here's an article about Vetter and his work from "National Geographic":

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0213_030213_brownrecluse.html

Paul