E-mail clients

[Brian Ellis]

Originally posted by Helevitia
Netscape used to be good, but I don't like the new interface.

You don't have to have the 'orrible new interface; I agree it's awful. If you go into Edit|Preferences|Appearance|Themes, you can select 'Classic' and, lo and behold, the next time you start it up, it looks like the old Netscape. You can also download a number of other themes.

While on the subject, the default Mozilla Thunderbird GUI is much less "Fisher-Price" than Netscape's 'Modern' and is quite acceptable for me, as is. Again, you have a choice of ~20 themes to download, but I find them all more gimmicky than the default.

[magog]

Voted for "Something else, what?":
I'm using PMMail for several years now.

http://www.pmmail2000.com/

[agallag]

Originally posted by Helevitia
1. There is no hotkey for purging your mail. You have to click edit, then purge mail. What a waste of time.

That's actually easy to fix in Outlook 2003. Right click on the button bar, click customize, then find the "purge deleted messages" from under the edit menu and drag it onto the button bar. It's not quite a hotkey, but it is only one click.

[THE_Editor]

Voted something else.

On pc .... Opera... for the wifes account.

On AmigaOne .. (atm) Kmail ..(quick) ...

when I can be bothered to load it ...Mozilla ..too big & clunky though.


Will be interesting to to see what mailer will work on Os4.
Probably be YAM. Which I've only ever seen screenshots of.
Supposed to have a good rep, though.

[Delany]

AZ, I was wondering if anyone would ask about that...put simply, Pre-Emptive Mail is a way of categorizing your inbox (Flash Message, Urgent, To, FYI, Other) so that you have some sort of idea of what you need to do with the email (respond within a certain timeframe etc) at a glance. It is primarily determined by how the email is marked/flagged by the sender (as in Urgent, To, Etc). It sounds like a weird idea when you first hear about it but after using it for a couple of months, it is really useful (especially when you get somewhere between 30-50 emails per day)...

[az]

So it's basically just a flag/filter system?

AZ

[Brian Ellis]

Well, the POPFile i mentioned earlier pre-emptively sorts all mail as you wish it, into "buckets". For example, all my spam goes into one bucket, all my personal stuff into another one, then all my work stuff into a third, all of my video beta testing into a fourth, one list server into a fifth and so on. The minimum number of buckets is two (e.g., spam and non-spam). there is no maximum, but it becomes unmanageable to have more than 20 or so (I know one guy who has nearly 50). The system decides which bucket by parsing the header, the body and the attachments and adds a line in the header like X-Text-Classification= [spam]. You then set up a filter for each classification in whichever e-mail client you use (I don't know any where you cannot use it - I've used it with Mozilla, Thunderbird, Netscape, Eudora and Pegausus) that sends all the messages thus classified from the bucket to whichever mailbox you want. No other filtering is required, unless you want it for specific reasons.

As an example, I attach my mailbox set-up in Netscape. The bold names are those with unread messages and the number thereof. My 7 buckets are:
- personal going to Inbox
- iee > IEE (a listserver)
- ipc > IPC and subsequently filtered into the 3 sub groups (work related)
- mspbeta > MSP Beta (private netlist of MSP and DVD Workshop 2 beta testers; the WS2list is an obsolete netlist)
- mug > MUG, a Yahoo group for Ulead video software
- solv > Solv.Gp., a Yahoo Group I moderate, related to solvents.
- spam > Trash

Rubbish is automatic redirection by filters of various types of automated responses, such as "out-of-office". I've had it running for a couple of weeks now and I'm satisfied it works perfectly, so it will be removed and replaced by automatic Delete.

The Conserve box is one to which I manually shift any message for any other mailbox, where it contains info that I wish to conserve.

As I mentioned, I'm now getting this pre-emptive sorting working automatically, including the spam going to the Trash mailbox, to >99.5% accuracy to all the mailboxes. I know of no other way of achieving this so accurately.

[Delany]

I suppose it's pretty much a flag/filter system. The major difference is that it Categorizes the inbox pane rather than moving mail to folders like Brian's. When i'm at work next i'll take a screenie of it to show you. I will have to send it home to post though as I don't have full Internet access at work

[az]

So it's a bit like Opera's access points system. It's a filter system, but the filters don't take messages out of the inbox etc. A message can be displayed in multiple access points (as in "from mum", "urgent", "contains music" etc.). The only access points that are mutually exclusive are the inbox, outbox, unread, sent, and trash. The messages are moved between these ones, but never taken out. It's more like a database than a folder structure.

AZ

[Helevitia]

Originally posted by agallag
That's actually easy to fix in Outlook 2003. Right click on the button bar, click customize, then find the "purge deleted messages" from under the edit menu and drag it onto the button bar. It's not quite a hotkey, but it is only one click.

cool, I'll have to check it out. Thanks!

Dave

[Nowhere]

Scribe is almost something good for me - too bad the free version doesn't support multiple accounts
So I'm using Thunderbird here, although it's little too heavy...perhaps one day I'll delete it and install Pine because of this ;P

[Chrono_Wanderer]

outlooko express, because its a no brainer.

[TransformX]

Switched from IE to Firebird and now Firefox.
Everything worked great so I did the next move:
Switched from OE to Thunderbird.
Happy so far.

[Wombat]

I don't really like Thunderbird, I've been using Evolution on my Linux box via Cygwin.

[TransformX]

Evolution is cool !