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Good! Now there may be room for a good ST series again (though I think they will think Enterprise failed because the franchise isn't good enough anymore, not because it just sucked so hard). Personally, I'd love to see a series that picked off where DS9 ended, including the overall darker mood etc. - heck, I would be very happy with just new DS9 seasons!
Will the end episode of Enterprise feature a time-space-anomaly where the Enterprise crashes into the Voyager, destroying them both and through the wonders of time and continuity, erase their utter existence in all times? That would be sweet.
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I had a feeling that the first reply would celebrate its demise.
They sure reworked it this year in desperation for better ratings. I'm a sucker for Star Trek and have watched each show from the various franchises. Some spin-offs are better than others but I still enjoy watching them, no matter how off-the-wall they get. I hope they can come up with a new series that succeeds.
I like what they're doing with Battlestar Gallactica. They didn't try and recreate the old series but are going off onto its own style. I think they've really pulled it off so far in BG.<TABLE BGCOLOR=Red><TR><TD><Font-weight="+1"><font COLOR=Black>The world just changed, Sep. 11, 2001</font></Font-weight></TR></TD></TABLE>
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I must admit I haven't seen very many Enterprise episodes, because the ones I have seen were really bad. I haven't seen the last season yet, naturally, not living in the USA.
ST:TNG also didn't try to just copy ST:TOS, and DS9 had problems in the beginning, because it was boring and seemed like a poor ripoff of TNG; it got much better later, characters are also good.
Voyager was very bad in the beginning (a curse all ST series suffer from), it got a little better towards the end, though I never really liked any of the characters (well, at least I could tell them from one another, not like Enterprise characters, who are indistinguishable to me), and I think they made a spelling mistake with 7-of-9: Borgs have silicon in their body, not silicone! (And they repeated the mistake with T'Pol, who also got quite a few softporn scenes in blue light)
But I never really gave enterprise a chance, I couldn't like it because they even ****ed up the damn opening credits! A nondescript poprock song, some nondescript pictures in rapid succession... where's my easy-to-recognize orchestral theme and the pompous space animations?!
AZ
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I wish I could feel more upset about this, but let's face it: Enterprise has become a boring rehash of virtually every Star Trek plot line ever produced. A closed writing shop contributed to the utter lack of originality. A slavish affection for "alternate timelime" plotlines has left me indifferent to Enterprise's fate.
Maybe they'll give it a rest for ten years or so and then hire a new production team with some fresh ideas.
edit @Az:If one is going to complain about Star Trek's wallowing in female sexiness, then one may as well cast one's wrath at TOS. Those mini-dresses the female crewpeople wore weren't designed for freedom of movement!
Thank Bill Theiss for setting the standard early.
KevinLast edited by KRSESQ; 2 February 2005, 17:05.
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I still think its a shame that its being canceled. As mentioned, putting it on Friday night was setting it up for failure and crappy ratings. I thought the Xindi story from last season had some very good writing, along with some of the eposodes this season.
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KRSESQ: Of course, but I'm young enough to see TOS more as a comedic show than an earnest SF series (and I think it really is the series that takes itself the least serious). Skimpy dresses etc. in an SF series were fine back then, but they aren't anymore, IMHO. Just makes it all less believeable. I also found Deanna Troy's costume over the top and unnecessary (and hated the episodes that revolved around her feeling that something or other was lonely/insane/sad etc.), but at least she didn't contain more plastic than Cher!
I am not a prude by any means, and I really do enjoy looking at beautiful women, but what ST has done in Voyager and Enterprise is just cheap and tasteless.
AZ
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So, which was worse?? Voyager or Enterprise??RC Agent
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Originally posted by RC Agent
So, which was worse?? Voyager or Enterprise??<TABLE BGCOLOR=Red><TR><TD><Font-weight="+1"><font COLOR=Black>The world just changed, Sep. 11, 2001</font></Font-weight></TR></TD></TABLE>
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Thanks for the post, I didn't even watch a single episode of Enterprise, because for me, I want something new, new technology a new story line etc, not something based on pre TOS.
I believe TNG was the best of them all, DS9 was a soap opera and Voyager was ok, it got better at the end as you got used to the characters especially when 7 of 9 got introduced
Anyway, I hope they woke up to realize that people want to see a successor to TNG, well at least that's my request, maybe a story line similair to starwars or something by based on Starfleet vs Klingons and Romulans instead of Jedi's vs the dark Empire
Cheers,
Elie
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I was really diggin' DS9 when they started the whole Dominion Wars thing up. It seemed that they took it from the realm of a cheesy SF show to something more along the lines of a soap opera/drama, ala Babylon 5. By having a consistant background plot that they can choose to focus on or push to the back it seems that it definately helped. also, I really dug the overall darker feel of it. Sunshine and Rainbows gets on my nerves after a while.
Voyager was alright for the first few seasons, the problem they had with it was quite simple though - you ultimately knew how the series was going to end. There was not too many directions that they could go after they explored the general concept of being lost from "home". I mean, ultimately they were either 1) going to make their way home the long way (very unlikely since it is a series about that cast/crew), or 2) find a way to get home magically (which happened). either that or die.
I think in general it probably would have made a better mini-series than full blown series.
Enterprise was kinda cool when I watched it - which was only for the first season. Something about the idea of being on the frontier was kinda cool to watch. Kinda neat to watch them discover "new" things inside the universe. In the end it suffers from the same issue that Voyager did though - there are only so many places you can go with the idea before it gets old."And yet, after spending 20+ years trying to evolve the user interface into something better, what's the most powerful improvement Apple was able to make? They finally put a god damned shell back in." -jwz
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I thought it was alright... I mean it's hardly oscar winning stuff, but when i watch TV I like to see the shows that got two stars or less.
If anything, I think the show has had far too a slow pace... I mean compare it to something like BG....The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England
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