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  • #31
    Another problem I have is this one girl. I have almost literally moved mountains for this friend. I’ve defend her from harm on several occasions. I was the only person who was around for her when she got suicidal and made sure that after her first failed attempt she would never try it again. When she got in to drugs I fished her out. I was there for her when she was stabbed in the back by all of her best friends. I have a busy life its always full, but whenever she needed me I always made time for her. When she needed money I made sure she got it.. sometimes without her knowing. I even fixed some of her problems with the administration and some of her shitass professors at university without her knowing… she suspected it was my doing but I denied. At a competition for the award of excellence (where students vote for the person who is seen to be the most active and helpful) at uni I disqualified my self just to let her get it instead of me to boost her moral and her self esteem which at that point was really low. I spent 8 complete days without sleep just to help her get her senior year project done on time, because her professor would not extend her deadline (although he did extend it for those who stabbed her in the back)… . I got the shakes at the end….


    Where am I leading with this. This wonderful girl does not acknowledge our friendship… she ignores me and pretends I don’t exist when we are at the same place with common friends. I have repeatedly tried to ask her for an explanation… she always avoids giving me an answer. She doesn’t talk to me anymore… yet when she travels somewhere she brings me presents.. but she want talk to me still… then she and one of our mutual friends got together and she seemed happy… she started talking to me again… I was happy to see her that way… one day when I was editing her BFs film… after he left she cals me and tells me that he dumped her for a girl that I consider to be a slut. Around that time I was in the process of getting my divorce.. and her being my fiend I talked it over with her… she played the devils advocate with me but at the end she conceded that I was right and that my relationship with my ex-wife was doomed a long time ago given all the circumstances and evidence… (strange how everyone agrees on that point and no one seems to blame me)…. At that time this girl and I rebounded and became really great friends again…. Then out of the blue she stops talking to me again… I still don’t know why… I was so frustrated that I called her and told her that I love her … and that in spite of my feelings for her I know that she doesn’t love me.. I told her that its not a problem for me because all I really want is for her to be my true friend more than anything… and that I cant stand the way she is treating me by shutting me out and refusing to get close to me even as a friend.. that she has no problem having a great time with ALL the people that stabbed her in the back or whom at some point hurt her deeply… being warm to them, touchy feely and all… but that with me she is cold.. distant… barley says hello (if even she says it)… now she doesn’t talk to me at all anymore. Shortly after that she got back with that ars of a BF who BTW is a very selfish emotionless bastard and whom everyone other than my self observe that he is not to her stature. This BF thinks of himself as gifted but he is not.. she is by far more gifted than he is… he dos not deserve her in anyway especially after the manner in which he dumped her…

    You got to understand that this girl is a very special girl… and I am not the only one who sees this in her… even the people who hate her will not deny that she is one of the most special people they know… and it is also the observation of my friends that she and I do have a bond.. that there is chemistry between us… even people who don’t know either of us and see us when we are near each other (whether we are on talking terms or not) see this bond between us… yet I don’t seem to exist to her…. I have repeatedly asked her to tell me what she wants.. I specifically asked her to tell me to farkoff and leave her alone once and for all if that is what she wants and that I would leave her alone… she would say no.. she doesn’t want me to do that… yet she refuses to talk to me or acknowledge my existence…

    She gets angry at me if I do the same to her… when we meet at someplace and I don’t acknowledge her she comes up to me and says hello… I say hello and she goes away… if I bump into her somewhere and say hello to her first she just walks by pretending that she did not hear me…

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    Ok.. I think that’s enough being pathetic for one post…. Its just so frustrating that’s all….
    "They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?"

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    • #32
      I was hoping that some of the lady member of this here forum would contribute their insight on this subject……. You ladies would probably provide more insight to us emotional fools than if it where just us males talking to each other.
      "They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?"

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      • #33
        You should probably slap her around a bit.. sounds like a masochist to me.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by SpiralDragon
          Another problem I have is this one girl. I have almost literally moved mountains for this friend. ...
          You cannot believe how recognizable this sounds... It took me quite some time to realize that she was leading me on (e.g. I waited for over 2 hours in the rain, only to find out she forgot about our date; and this didn't happen once), and then it took even more time to get over it.
          Problem is that experiences like that tend to frighten you for other dates and for getting to know other people: you just don't want that to happen again.

          In a way, it is reassuring to see that other people experience this (it is not something that easily comes up in a live conversation with friends , I'm glad it came up here).



          Jörg
          pixar
          Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow. (James Dean)

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          • #35
            Originally posted by VJ
            In a way, it is reassuring to see that other people experience this (it is not something that easily comes up in a live conversation with friends , I'm glad it came up here).



            Jörg
            i was hoping some of you guys would talk.... because you are right people are usualy mum about this... i have always been a good listener and i can tell alot about people by watching them and listening to them... i am chnaging now.. and i am finding it nessesary to find new means of comunication.. other than my usual mistic ways ... i have recently descovered that i am in need of verbal confirmation... even if what i know is true... i need to have it actualy spoken instead of just thought off.
            "They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?"

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            • #36
              and so what if i apear week... i know my own streghth....
              and so what if i sound pethetic... i am not afraid of my emotions... but i dont have an outlet for my emotions.. i thought i did.. but it seams that i never had one...

              one way of expressing myself is through my work.. films... music... plays... but i dont have the freedom to express my self through these means as readly as i used too... inspite of the fact that alot of people here ow me far too many favours .. i dont think it would be fair to make them work for free and i just dont have the funds to do my kind of films.. at least not yet... so all i do is scrible down my ideas hoping that one day i can make something out of them.....
              "They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?"

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              • #37
                Get a fat 10inch dildo and wear it inside your pants. Hanging down one leg would be good. You will get laid.

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                • #38
                  KvH... its not the geting laid that i am woried about.. i can get laid any time i want.. thats the easy part... i dont have a problem with that... i do have a problem with geting a relationship going... something that is more than just phisical..... phisical is great.. but i need emotions.... i need passion... not dry cut straight to the point sex
                  "They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?"

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by VJ

                    I am in the exact same situation...

                    I have a feeling they consider me (us?) to good a friend, and they don't want to risk loosing that friendship trying a relation doesn't work out.

                    Jörg
                    Add me to that list.

                    I dwelled on it and the reasons for a couple for years and I can tell you that isn't something you want to do. I've pretty given up now, the way I see it is at least I have the friendship of several nice woman, I would love true companionship as you put it SD but am happy with what I have.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by dbdg
                      I would love true companionship as you put it SD but am happy with what I have.

                      i could do with that... but at some point a "just freinds" is not enugh...
                      "They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?"

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                      • #41
                        Well, here's my two cents. I'm not very good with the ladies, but from my past experiences, being "too nice" is a bad thing. I had a similar experience in which I did so much for some girl - I helped do her work when she needed it, even though I didn't finish my own work, I gave her money when she needed it and didn't ask for her to pay me back, etc. In return, she treated me like crap, ignored me when I walked past and didn't talk to me unless she wanted something.

                        So what I think is, being too nice to a girl would encourage her to either take advantage of you (if she's mean), or to just think of you as a friend (if she's not so mean). But being bad is no good either. I think it's best to be reasonable. For example, do her favors but expect her to repay that favor at a later date. Compliment her, but only when she's deserving of a compliment.

                        Or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, lol.

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                        • #42
                          lol... do any of us ever know WTF we are ever talking about....

                          i am undergoing a wiered change... the jury is still out on wether this change is good or bad... lets just say that the internal batel is so heated up ATM....... somethings got to give... soon...
                          "They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?"

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