Are you in the 98% or 2%?

[Duty]

silver wrench

[TnT]

Orange hammer

I originally thought orange banana, but realized banana wasn't a tool.

[DGhost]

i actually thought of red hammer.

what the ****.

it's ok, we still adore you even if you are *snicker* normal *giggle*.

teehee.

[Nowhere]

It's crap because it presumes that people are lemmings. While they cynical side of me agrees, it's bad to assume things like that.

It's just too convenient to say that we all think the same thing because of the way we're conditioned. Bleh.

Everyone loved Freud, too - until it became apparent to anyone with a critical mind that his work was only valid for middle aged European gentlemen who liked to smoke cigars and wanted to f**k their mothers.

Huh? It treats person as individual - everything is tied to context (not only of situation, but personal also) - I don't see how's that assuming we're lemmings. It's says much about the rules, process (in that regard, we are conditioned...after all we're all human beings of similar background)...but it doesn't care that much about what comes out of it, certainly not what will surely come out of it in every case.

Come to think of it...it's one of schools I like the most (the other thing is...I like in some way almost every one of them - the key is knowing them all after all...)...in comparison to psychoanalisis, by using your example (btw, it's usefull, of course not how it was praised to be, more often than for analisys of European gentlemens - and, furthermore, Jewish, might I add ), it didn't ever try to be definitive answer to everything...but it's not bad in explaining the subjects it touches.

And psychotherapy based on it is kinda fun

[Marshmallowman]

Blue crescent wrench

[Elie]

purple chainsaw

[DirtFarmer]

Seems rather precise. LOL

actually it started as a yellow sawsall

[DirtFarmer]

purple chainsaw

now were talking.

[Brian R.]

Red Hammer

Not good...

So what color and tool are thought of without the calculations?

[SitFlyer]

Possibly because of all the garden work I've been doing

White hoe

[Umfriend]

It's crap because it presumes that people are lemmings. While they cynical side of me agrees, it's bad to assume things like that.

It's just too convenient to say that we all think the same thing because of the way we're conditioned. Bleh.

I think you are confused. Read what nowhere said. Just becuase gestalttherapy uses a set of tools based on a generalisation of certain aspects of human behaviour (or better on the link between physical and mental processes) does not mean it treats all people the same way or believes all people work in one well-defined conditioned manner. On the contrary, it is a very individual based approach that aims to help you see your own demons, your own, not the ones of someone like Freud where problems indeed always seem to be related to a fixed view on human behaviour. You ever read *anything* on this? Furthermore, even something that may not be universally valid, how is that *crap* by definition?

[Gurm]

I think you are confused. Read what nowhere said. Just becuase gestalttherapy uses a set of tools based on a generalisation of certain aspects of human behaviour (or better on the link between physical and mental processes) does not mean it treats all people the same way or believes all people work in one well-defined conditioned manner. On the contrary, it is a very individual based approach that aims to help you see your own demons, your own, not the ones of someone like Freud where problems indeed always seem to be related to a fixed view on human behaviour. You ever read *anything* on this? Furthermore, even something that may not be universally valid, how is that *crap* by definition?

Ok, I said it's crap because of the insinuation that the answer to why EVERYONE (or supposedly everyone) picks "RED HAMMER" could be found in this type of psychology. And it can't. As you said, as an individualized approach it can be useful - but to say that it can explain why "EVERYONE" thinks the same thing is ridiculous.

[Umfriend]

Oh, sry, didn't get that context. Agreed. Wasn't that hard to misunderstand though.

[Kurt]

Red Milwaukee 28V cordless hammer-drill. Is that close enough?

I thought orange _and_ drill. The drill was actually a red milwaukee pph24 (pneumatic hammer? not sure if it's the correct english name...)

That's a color _and_ a tool right?

[Nowhere]

Ok, I said it's crap because of the insinuation that the answer to why EVERYONE (or supposedly everyone) picks "RED HAMMER" could be found in this type of psychology. And it can't. As you said, as an individualized approach it can be useful - but to say that it can explain why "EVERYONE" thinks the same thing is ridiculous.

Well...it's not ridiculous (but also not true OTOH...it's a little more complicated). And...well it doesn't insinuate such thing, but it's not a bad tool for looking that answer; whether it can be found or not is a different matter...

PS. What do you propose instead? (I guess not behaviorism... )