French veneer peeling a bit?

[DGhost]

Yeah KvH,

But what if you invited him? What if you needed him to work those low wage jobs that neither you nor your neighbours want to work? Now, to continue the analogy, he was supposed to respect the rules of your house. He's not. That's the problem. And further what if you didn't do enough to ensure that he'd learn the value of those rules? To him the just seem arbitrary and unfair.

I think that our society has to decide to do more to assist the absorption of foreigners. Not just let them in and be thankful that they'll work for peanuts.

Also, we need to agree that our culture is of at least equal value to theirs and that they SHOULD be required to learn it.

I agree with you, but I also believe that our culture should require a bit more. granted... being a citizen places requirements on what they can and cannot do... being an illegal alien effectively circumvents all of that.

the problem at this point is largely economic. living here offers enough economic incentives to many people that it is worth breaking the laws to do it. to boot, there are several largish populations where illegal aliens can effectively disappear into and not be questioned. and they hold a suprising amount of political power.

what we need to do to remove this is make it easier (not by requirements) to become citizens. unfortunately, our laws make it a pain in the ass for any non-citizen to get their citizenship even if they do all the requirements. give people more incentive to become a full citizen and allow more people to do so. you just gotta remove the economic reasons that allow people to go the illegal alien route to begin with.

[KvHagedorn]

If the native population as a whole is too damned lazy or uppity to do its own yardwork and cleaning, it's as doomed as Rome. Nuff said.

[schmosef]

You know something? That's exactly what I'm afraid of.

I look back on what Toronto was like when I grew up and I compare it to now. And it really scares me.

[DGhost]

Society is not to the point of burning into ashes yet. There is still plenty that can be saved - it takes a desire to save it though.

[schmosef]

dry bones

The latest cruel terror attack in Dehli, on the eve of the Indian "Festival of Lights" reminded me of this cartoon that I did a few years ago. It's a light-weight joke, but I did it when I realized how we normal, democratic societies were each seen as a threat by our enemies.

Interesting that only 4 years ago I still saw them as separate forces, rather than as a coordinated Jihadist army. One wonders how long it'll take before we, the targets of terror, pull ourselves together to form a united alliance.

[schmosef]

I just finished reading The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (And the Crusades) by Robert Spencer.

My next non-fiction book is going to be Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis by Bat Ye'Or.

These books tackle some rather disturbing trends in our society. It's disconcerting stuff. I wish they were wrong. I know that they're not.

Brian, if you're willing to read Robert Spencer's book, I'll send you a copy.

[schmosef]

War in France, War in Denmark

Lately, the moslem-led riots now running for four days straight in France have been given a great deal of attention, fex from the BBC:

France's Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy has promised to step up security after violence flared for a fourth night in a Paris suburb.

Six policemen were hurt and 11 people arrested in the latest clashes with youths in Clichy-sous-Bois, although it was calmer than on previous nights.

Not that well covered is a very similar series of riots, also running for four days, in Ã…rhus, Denmark. Nothing of it has penetrated to the english-language sections of Danish media, so the following is my translation of a piece in daily Jyllands-Posten:

Rosenhøj Mall has several nights in a row been the scene of the worst riots in Århus for years. "This area belongs to us", the youths proclaim. Sunday evening saw a new arson attack.

Their words sound like a clear declaration of war on the Danish society. Police must stay out. The area belongs to immigrants.

Four youths sit on the wall in Rosenhøj Mall sunday afternoon, calling themselves spokesmen for the groups, that three nights in a row have ravaged and tried to burn down the restaurant and other stores.

Around the parking lot, cars with youngsters from the immigrant community are swarming, and many are walking around, greeting each others with a sense of victory after the worst riots in Ã…rhus in years.

Every night 30-40 youts took part, especially immigrants.

Only two were arrested.

That was a victory.

"We knew, you would be coming. We are spokesmen", said a young man with a black knitted hood on his head, when JP (Jyllands-Posten - Henrik) visited Rosenhøj Mall sunday. He was angry. Very angry. Behind him the pub Hot Shot has scars after the attacks with cobble stones, and the stores along the parking lot besides the small mall have their windows covered with adhesive tape in a spiderweb pattern.

Four hours after the short meeting, Falck (Danish privat emergency service - Henrik) sent a group of fire engines under police escort to the nursery Kjærslund on Søndervangs Allé, right across the street from Rosenhøj Mall.

Gasoline through the window

A window had been shattered at the back of the house, and the fire had been blazing, apparently because of gasoline poured onto the floor, then lit.

Falck stopped on Viby Square, a couple kilometers from the site of the arson attack, waiting for the police to turn up so they could be escorted to the nursery. Two nights earlier, other Falck-employees were threatened, when they were covering up broken shop-windows.

Cobblestones had smashed the shop-windows from one end of the mall to the other. The police wrote in their report saturday night, that the youths had their stones with them in bags, when they came to Rosenhøj.

Cobblestones against bakery.

Saturday morning a 16-year-old somali boy was incarcerated, accused of aggravated assault, as he friday evening threw a cobblestone through a window in the bakery. The stone passed closely by baker Børge Svaløs face. ..

He calls himself 100 percent Palestinian, born in a refugee camp in Lebanon 19 years ago, and now out of work in Denmark.

"The police has to stay away. This is our area. We decide what goes down here".

And then the bit with the drawings of the prophet Muhammed comes around:

We are tired of what we see happening with our prophet. We are tired of Jyllands-Posten. I know it isnt you, but we wont accept what Jyllands-Posten has done to the prophet", he says aggressively, and the others nod approvingly.

Planned for three weeks

To of them are Turks, and it is the first time, that Turks and Palestinians act together, the 19-year-old says.

"We have planned this for three weeks. That is why only two were arrested saturday nigh. The police will cordon off it all. But we know the ways out", he claims, and then disappears, munching on a piece of pizza from Fun Pizza.

The pizzerias windows are also held together by adhesive tape after the attacks with cobblestones.

Of course, it isnt of the size the Paris riots have, but then France is 10 times larger than Denmark, population-wise, and has 25 times more moslems.

Its not just Paris.

Henrik

[ALBPM]

You don't even have a clue about what's going on here....

If you took a poll among even the native/hispanic populace in the US one thing you'll discover is that most of them are as hot about what's happening at our southern border as the rest of the population.

Example: the Mexican govt. is encouraging the border problem to the point of some of their Federales (Mexican Federal Police) attacking US border guards who are on station in our territory. Several times they have even crossed the border to do so.

No bull, just fact. This has gotten so bad that several Governors of southwestern states, including former UN Ambassador Bill Richardson (Democrat) who is now the Gov. of New Mexico, have declared border emergencies in their states.

Uppance: NO racism involved, just the recognition that Mexico is abusing the privelidge of a relatively open border. If this doesn't get settled down pretty darned soon there'll be a 15' wall from California to the Gulf.

Dr. Mordrid

Doc is right on here...... We basically have a War Zone along the Texas, New Mexico and Arizona borders. It's not just the poor mexicans trying to get into the U.S. but the Mexican Drug Lords are fighting amoung themselves and the U.S. Authorities. Home invasions have been on the rise forcing Ranchers and other U.S. citizens to abandon their Homes along the border. The common senario is to have your door kicked in and at gunpoint they demand food, water and your vehicle.

Lately, Mexican Drug Lords/gangs are on a campaign to take over the Drug Market in the larger Southwest Cities - Albuquerque included. These gangs are para-military and are gradually killing off - literally- the local Drug labs/gangs etc...

So, after seeing the Katrina "FUBAR" none off us down here have any faith in the Federal or Local Gov't or law Enforcement to protect us. Even more now than before

What is even worse for me is now is I have to be armed when fishing , Rock hunting or doing anything fun out in remote areas anymore. I have had two friends in separate incidents robbed at gunpoint by Mexican Nationals of money and one had their car taken as well.

Here's a pic taken during a break while collecting fossils southwest of Albuquerque back in July. We were out in a stretch of desert/hills heavily used by Mexicans headed north.


Yes, it's sad but this is what it's comming to down here.........

[Dilitante1]

nice firearms, shame that you NEED to carry such items down there tho....

[ZokesPro]

Doc is right on here...... We basically have a War Zone along the Texas, New Mexico and Arizona borders. It's not just the poor mexicans trying to get into the U.S. but the Mexican Drug Lords are fighting amoung themselves and the U.S. Authorities. Home invasions have been on the rise forcing Ranchers and other U.S. citizens to abandon their Homes along the border. The common senario is to have your door kicked in and at gunpoint they demand food, water and your vehicle.

Lately, Mexican Drug Lords/gangs are on a campaign to take over the Drug Market in the larger Southwest Cities - Albuquerque included. These gangs are para-military and are gradually killing off - literally- the local Drug labs/gangs etc...

So, after seeing the Katrina "FUBAR" none off us down here have any faith in the Federal or Local Gov't or law Enforcement to protect us. Even more now than before

What is even worse for me is now is I have to be armed when fishing , Rock hunting or doing anything fun out in remote areas anymore. I have had two friends in separate incidents robbed at gunpoint by Mexican Nationals of money and one had their car taken as well.

Here's a pic taken during a break while collecting fossils southwest of Albuquerque back in July. We were out in a stretch of desert/hills heavily used by Mexicans headed north.


Yes, it's sad but this is what it's comming to down here.........

Holy crap! That's pretty intense! Can't say I've been in such a situation myself but I can try and imagine what it feels like. I'm not sure what to say .

Damn, that really REALLY sucks. I honestly hopew that nothing bad happens to you and your family.

[schmosef]

You'd think that Bush would be more aware of and care more about such problems in Texas, etc.

[ALBPM]

It's all about Oil.....need I say more. Bush doesn't want to piss off our neighbor down south.

Here's some more links:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/12/newmexico/

http://www.newschannel5.tv/2005/5/12/2682/Border-Patrol-Takes-Fire-From-Mexico

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA073105.1A.consulate_folo.3908f8b.html

[GT98]

You'd think that Bush would be more aware of and care more about such problems in Texas, etc.

part of the problem is that no one wants to give up on the flow of cheap labor that Mexicans offer...

Its amazing in my area how many immigants..legal and illegeal have come into the area in the past 5-10 years.

[ALBPM]

Another intersting link. "Scary"

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Currents/Content?oid=oid:71525

And here's my latest upgrade.....

FN FAL 7.62 x 51 built from an STG Austrian barrel and lower receiver with an Imbel (Brazil) upper receiver.

[ZokesPro]

It's all about Oil.....need I say more. Bush doesn't want to piss off our neighbor down south.

Here's some more links:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/12/newmexico/

http://www.newschannel5.tv/2005/5/12/2682/Border-Patrol-Takes-Fire-From-Mexico

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met...o.3908f8b.html

How come I've never heard about this until now? That's what surprises me the second most. The first was hearing about it (and checking out your nicely camouflaged weaponry :P).