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    Coult be at least partially so;

    Obesity May Be Contagious, Scientists Say

    By Robert Roy Britt
    LiveScience Managing Editor
    posted: 30 January 2006
    08:30 am ET

    Mounting evidence suggests obesity is contagious, scientists said today.

    A human pathogen called the adenovirus Ad-37 causes obesity in chickens, according to a new study led by Leah Whigham of the departments of Medicine and Nutritional Sciences at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.

    Previous research found that two related adenoviruses, Ad-36 and Ad-5, cause obesity in animals. Adenoviruses typically cause respiratory infections.

    Importantly, Ad-36 has associated with human obesity in previous studies, and Ad-37 might be, too, but more research is needed, Whigham said.

    "It makes people feel more comfortable to think that obesity stems from lack of control," Whigham said. "It's a big mental leap to think you can catch obesity."

    And more work needs to be done.

    "We still need to more definitively establish the link with these adenoviruses and human obesity," Whigham told LiveScience. "We also have no idea how the virus interacts with other factors such as diet and exercise."

    The new findings are detailed in the January issue of the American Journal of Physiology-Regulatory, Integrative and Comparative Physiology published by the American Physiological Society.

    If obesity is contagious, the virus might be responsible for only part of the world’s growing girth. Changing diets, scientists say, surely also plays a role.

    "The nearly simultaneous increase in the prevalence of obesity in most countries of the world is difficult to explain by changes in food intake and exercise alone, and suggest that adenoviruses could have contributed," the researchers conclude. "The role of adenoviruses in the worldwide epidemic of obesity is a critical question that demands additional research."

    In an editorial in the journal, Frank Greenway, a professor at Louisiana State University, outlined some logical next steps for researchers.

    "If Ad-36 is responsible for a significant portion of human obesity, the logical therapeutic intervention would be to develop a vaccine to prevent future infections," Frank said. "If a vaccine were to be developed, one would want to ensure that all the serotypes of human adenoviruses responsible for human obesity were covered in the vaccine."

    The stakes are high.

    "The prevalence of obesity has doubled in adults in the United States in the last 30 years and has tripled in children," the researchers write. "With the exception of infectious diseases, no other chronic disease in history has spread so rapidly, and the etiological factors producing this epidemic have not been clearly identified."

    Richard Atkinson, also of the University of Wisconsin and a member of the research team, studied 500 obese people in 2004 and found that about 30 percent of them had antibodies to the Ad-36 virus, which suggests they may have been exposed to the virus.

    As with any contagious disease, one line of defense would be to wash your hands. A study last year found that scrubbing with soap rids hands of most viruses in 10 seconds.
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    One possible defense would be to ban "High Fructose Corn Syrup".

    And to exercise.

    And to turn off the damn TV.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gurm
      One possible defense would be to ban "High Fructose Corn Syrup".
      Amen.
      I have thought that for years.
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      • #4
        One possible defense would be to ban "High Fructose Corn Syrup".
        Tell it, Brother!

        Kevin

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        • #5
          Well, high fructose corn syrup's Glycemic Index is absurdly high. Lots of new studies (and public policy in countries like Canada, New Zealand, etc.) show that the higher the Glycemic Index of a particular food, the more likely it is to turn directly into fat.

          Now go to your pantry and see how many of your foods have HFCS in them! It's in there instead of sugar, largely because it keeps better.

          It's in EVERYTHING. Low-fat frozen yogurt? You bet! "Diet" and "Lite" foods? ABSOLUTELY. It's EVIL. It doesn't have any more CARBS than sugar, but the carbs it does have are evil evil carbs that attack your ass and gut.
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          • #6
            And liver.
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            • #7
              Amen! I've been doing that for a while now.

              It's absolutely amazing what has HFCS in it. "Juice" drinks from Dole is pretty much pop without the carbonation. Many store breads use it as well.

              I always thought obesity was contageous because people would buy fatty foods and then offer it to everyone else around them
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gurm
                Now go to your pantry and see how many of your foods have HFCS in them! It's in there instead of sugar, largely because it keeps better.
                No, it's in there almost entirely because of sugar tariffs.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Wombat
                  No, it's in there almost entirely because of sugar tariffs.
                  Yup.
                  Why do you think cokes taste better in Mexico, for example?
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                  • #10
                    My Texan friends get cane soda in their supermarkets.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cjolley
                      Yup.
                      Why do you think cokes taste better in Mexico, for example?
                      I was in Mexico a long time ago.

                      We took a tour through a jewellery factory and at the end they had this big bucket of ice filled with bottles of coke.

                      It was the best coke I ever had. I still remember it.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by schmosef
                        ...

                        It was the best coke I ever had. I still remember it.
                        It was the coke of my youth.
                        Real sucrose, not HFCS.

                        Gone for good here until Castro dies.


                        PS The fact that it's generaly hotter than hell in a Mexican factory probably didn't hurt either.
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                        • #13
                          Pepsi in Canada still has real sugar. I don't know about Coke. Plenty of countries don't use HFCS routinely like the USA does, so I imagine there's still plenty of places to get "real" Coke.
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                          • #14
                            I was in Atlanta last year for a business trip and I wanted to go to the Coke museum but my business partner was sick during the afternoon we had free and I had to run around getting meds for him.

                            I've heard that you can taste coke made from formulas used all around the world there.

                            I wonder if they use HFCS in the mixes though.

                            I hate the taste of Pepsi. A lot of people can't taste the difference. I can. It sucks.

                            I used to like regular Coke when I was a kid. Somewhere along the line, the formula did change because it tastes different now.

                            I drink diet Coke and Coke Zero now.

                            Yeah, yeah, the aspartame will kill me.
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                            • #15
                              I'm all about Coke Zero now, and drink "real" Coke just on special occasions. CZ is the first diet beverage I've ever tasted in which I CANNOT taste the artificial sweetener. Problem is, our local Coke plant never makes enough and the stores are sold out half the time. I've badgered my brother-in-law Gary to get on the stick and crank up production, but so far nothing has changed. 'Course, it would help if he was still in management (went back to the line for his blood pressure).

                              Kevin

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