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And since Doc put the original quote into context for you, you can see that Paul (at least) was not speaking about drying out his soul in order not to know or have that thing called "fun" anymore.
Saul was the original anti-semite. Self loathing doesn't become anyone.
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Saul was the original anti-semite. Self loathing doesn't become anyone.
I don't see how you can make such a statement. Saul was a Jew "circumcised on the eighth day", probably of Pharisaic bent. There is plenty of evidence that he followed the Mosaic law, even after his admission of Gentiles into the early Christian community (cf. the circumcision of Timothy, despite an agreement that this rite was not necessary; the berating of Simon Peter for departing from Mosaic Law etc.). His main travelling companion for many years was Barnabas, a Cypriot Jew. AFAIK, he never preached against the Jews, although he was detested after his conversion by some conservative Jewish factions (such as those who executed Barnabas) and by the Romans alike.
What is certain is that, like many persons of diminutive stature with a mission, he was loud-spoken and arrogant. That he changed the face of the world is indisputable, probably because of Stephen's martyrdom. I believe the "Road to Damascus" incident was simply a reflection on this event and his blindness was an allegorical prelude to the opening of his eyes to Jesus' teachings, probably travelling with a mentor. I see no evidence that he was "self-loathing" or that he preached it. He certainly was against some immorality, such as free sex. Some of the early Christians deprived themselves of pleasure, but Paul/Saul (Paul was actually only a nickname conferred on him by Greeks because of his size, πάυλος meaning tiny) was against this (cf. he gave Timothy an excuse to drink wine in moderation).
No, I think you are being unfair.
But I fear this thread is drifting towards a movement, all because I made a Pavline quotation!
Bond also played backgammon (Octopussy: Bond vs. Kamal Kahn). In fact both Sean Connery and Roger Moore were known to hustle backgammon during Bond shoots. Connery once took a producer for $25,000.
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Currently the hot game in the US and probably the world is Texas Hold-em Poker. Guess what they played in Casino Royale...
Do you know that I only got interested in playing poker because of that movie?!
I've seen it like a week ago or so and next day I was googling for poker pages (actually found some decent ones, like http://www.pokerstrategy.org.uk/ ).
Wonder what wil happen to poker when the laws that forbidden playing are through...you kind of get hooked up a little bit..
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