My Jr. High school was NEVER like THIS...

[KRSESQ]

It's not really even the vertical pole that's the problem. Many playgrounds still have monkey bars, which include long vertical poles. But we would never have DREAMED of using them like that! So it's not the pole so much as the pole dance. There's no denying that that style of pole dance emerged from the sex industry and so might reasonably be considered inappropriate in situations as this.

Kevin

[Nowhere]

KRSESQ, some other things can also be said to be related in a similar way. For example, mentioned previously, anticonception. Only sluts need it, right, especially at young age?

...completely out of proportion.

Perhaps now you know how we feel about it



Oh, and please note that my country, while geographically in Europe, would be actually very close to your position on this issue, so it's also a matter of beeing against one of many aspects of my local situation...

[High_Jumbllama]

It's not really even the vertical pole that's the problem. Many playgrounds still have monkey bars, which include long vertical poles. But we would never have DREAMED of using them like that! So it's not the pole so much as the pole dance. There's no denying that that style of pole dance emerged from the sex industry and so might reasonably be considered inappropriate in situations as this.

Kevin

Agreed.

[High_Jumbllama]

KRSESQ, some other things can also be said to be related in a similar way. For example, mentioned previously, anticonception. Only sluts need it, right, especially at young age?

Ahh. A point that I can understand.

Perhaps now you know how we feel about it

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[Kruzin]

It's got nothing to do with the simple existence of a pole (or any 'phallic' form).
It's all about what a dancer does with that pole.

What was demonstrated in the video is CLEARLY what in my hemisphere is considered a stripper dance. A girl straddling and spinning around a pole is a stripper dance around here. A less than 'wholesome' endeavor. Something I don't want my child involved with. I have every right to choose what I feel is proper for my child to learn, and YOU have NO PLACE to tell me I'm wrong in what I teach my children.

Those of you too ignorant to respect how other cultures perceive things need to just keep your traps shut and show some respect for the world around your little shell.
I do not believe a woman who is not wearing a burka is being provacative...yet I do not condemn or insult those individuals who do believe that way.

Your petty name calling and insults against my personal feelings mean nothing to me, and will not change my feelings on the matter.

[Marshmallowman]

I will never look at my patio the same again

[Brian Ellis]

Try this, then

[Dr Mordrid]

[cjolley]

Very funny Brian.
But the ad weakens your case.

[Brian Ellis]

Very funny Brian.
But the ad weakens your case.

Not at all. I never denied that pole dancing was used for erotic entertainment, as well as gymnastics.

Pole dancing is a form of dancing/gymnastics. It involves dancing sensually with a vertical pole and is often used in strip clubs and gentlemen's clubs, although more recently artistic pole dancing (Chinese poles) is used in cabaret/circus and stage performance in a non-erotic environment. Advanced pole dancing requires significant strength and endurance. In a strip club setting, pole dancing is often performed less gymnastically and combined with striptease, and/or lap dancing between performers. The dancer(s) may simply hold the pole, or use it to perform more athletic moves such as climbs, spins, and body inversions. Upper body and core strength are important to proficiency, which takes time to develop.

Pole dancing is now regarded as a recognized form of exercise and can be used as both an aerobic and anaerobic workout. Recognised schools and qualifications are being developed as pole dancing increases in popularity. Pole dancing is also regarded by many as a performing art. It is used as a performing art in some modern day circuses. One of these circuses is Montreal's Cirque du Soleil. In this circus, the acrobats, who often wear multi-colored catsuits, perform advanced pole dancing moves that require a great deal of strength and skill.

...Recently, pole dancing has caught on as a new and increasingly popular form of exercise, in which women (and sometimes men) use the pole as a workout prop.[1] This form of exercise increases upper body strength (by using the body itself as resistance) while toning the body as a whole.

...Pole dance competitions have attempted to shy away from amateur nights at strip clubs. These events are strictly non-nude and non-stripping with the focus placed on the athleticism and artistry of the performer rather than on pure sex appeal.

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