Which stonks are you buying if any?

[VJ]

Amid the rapid conversion of the auto industry to electric, VW and Toyota are scrambling in Tesla's wake.

That is not the point UtwigMU is making... Tesla is worth more than VW, Toyota, GM and Stellantis combined. Now suppose Tesla manages overnight to replace all of these brands, then Tesla would be valued much higher than those four groups, even if there is not that much growth potential in the scenario where those no longer exist.
It could be a change of the meaning of valuation, closer to silicon valley than to car-manufacturers, but still it feels something is off here.

[Dr Mordrid]

Tesla is valued 2M per car sold. Realistic (VW, Toyota, Ford) is 15-25k.
They made 500k cars, while big companies make 9M per year. Last year they were only profitable because of subsidies and crypto pump and dump.
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Tesla will hit over 900,000 this year with 2 new factories (Germany, Texas) opening by year's end, and well over 1.5 million next year. In their last quarterly they had a 30.5% gross margin, of which only 2% were credits. Cash: $16.065 billion as of Sep 30, 2021.

What is more probable: VW, Toyota hitting 15-20 trillion valuation or Tesla coming down to more realistic 100-500M?

Amid the rapid conversion of the auto industry to electric, VW and Toyota are scrambling in Tesla's wake.

Toyota was in denial over pure EVs, pushing fuel cells, while others advanced battery techs. Now batteries are becoming so cheap fuel cells are a niche.

VW has admitted they're far behind Tesla and scrambling; Diess reported it takes them 30 hours to make a vehicle while Tesla rolls one off the line in 10 hours, and that gap will increase. Tesla is switching to a structural battery pack for the center frame, with the front and rear chassis segments being one piece high pressure (6000-8000 tonne) castings. Bolt together and you have most of the vehicle. Goodbye to hundreds of parts and the processes it takes to assemble them.

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[dZeus]

My growth strategy is mostly focused on space (RKLB and RDW), as well as Vanadium redox flow batteries (miners, eg LGO). Dividends with big oil (TTE).

Once interest rates on corporate bonds start to rise, I see debt-fueled growth companies taking a big beating as well as highly leveraged companies and the stock market in general.
I don't see much that looks appealing to invest in when inflation goes up a lot (while gov bond rates are surpressed below inflation rate), other than stuff that will help bring down your own long term fixed costs: own a property with a garden where you can grow some food, and get ways to reduce your reliance on potentially very expensive fossil fuels and/or methods subject to stricter environmental protection laws. My plan is to apply thermal insulation as much as possible and to install low temperature underfloor heating (powered by solar thermal energy and a heatpump) alongside the existing natural gas heating and wood stove.

[UtwigMU]

Tesla is valued 2M per car sold. Realistic (VW, Toyota, Ford) is 15-25k.
They made 500k cars, while big companies make 9M per year. Last year they were only profitable because of subsidies and crypto pump and dump.
What is more probable: VW, Toyota hitting 15-20 trillion valuation or Tesla coming down to more realistic 100-500M?

So this valuation won't hold forever. What's your exit strategy Doc?
I'm too late for Tesla and YTD both MSFT and NVDA outperformed Tesla.

My stock purchase is near and I don't know what direction to go. My longterm goal is mix of dividends and growth. My goal is to save up capital, at some point I might buy apartment.

More dividends: since there is high inflation, good dividend stocks are getting expensive and dividend yield lower. Since I pay 15% to uncle Sam and then additional 12.5% to my local government from dividends, they are not so hot although nice to have as they pay for brokerage fees. I don't have enough capital to create LLC and break even on lower taxes vs costs of running a LLC.

Growth: I don't see anything not risky and cheap at the moment. Some ideas: Airbnb, Fiverr, Upwork, Intel (if they return to being leaders)
AMD, nVidia, Nokia, MSFT and other FAAMGs type stocks are all expensive.

Index: EQQQ (Nasdaq), SPY, BRK (Berkshire is practically a mutual fund)?

Diversify from tech? (now 40% pharma, 55% tech)?
Now 55% dividend, 35% growth although one of my large holdings is both growth (+50% growth, 4% dividend yield) and dividend.

[Dr Mordrid]

Jesus....

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/business/tesla-trillion-stock-price.html

Tesla shares surpass $1 trillion in value.

Tesla shares vaulted to new heights on Monday, giving the electric-car maker a market capitalization of $1 trillion for the first time.

The latest gain — of nearly 13 percent in the day’s trading — came after Hertz announced that it would buy 100,000 Tesla cars by the end of next year. Electric vehicles would then make up more than 20 percent of its global fleet.

Tesla’s share price has risen more than tenfold since mid-March of last year, in the early days of the pandemic, when it fell below $100. The stock closed Monday at $1,024.86, its first close above $1,000.

The trillion-dollar valuation is the latest sign of how Tesla has disrupted the auto industry. The company is now more valuable than General Motors, Toyota Motor, Ford Motor, Volkswagen, BMW, Honda Motor and several other automakers combined.
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[Umfriend]

ABN has been better recently, FUR still at somewhat disappointing levels. Not doing anything for a while.

[UtwigMU]

I got 4 cents / share nVidia dividends today. How is everyone's portfolio doing?

[dZeus]

The UK is seeing a slight resurgence of covid cases, mostly of the B 1.617.2 variant. While in early stages, it may mean that the AstraZeneca vaccine does not provide sufficient protection to slow the spread much of this variant. It's too early to say this with confidence though, and the UK's vaccination rate seem to slow down and might reach a plateau that might be below levels providing herd immunity.
I'm not very confident that France will do much better, considering the level of vaccine distrust.

In other news, I had my first jab of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday. Second jab scheduled in 6 weeks.

IAG shares went further down the drain, should have sold them when they had a pre-gamma variant peak (what sense is there in predicting what's going to happen when I don't follow up my own advice).
Fortunately compensated by the space investments (former VACQ and NSH SPACs) are taking off, even though I fear it's more because of meme-stock induced 'casino' behaviour, which would be bad long-term as it creates too much fluctuation for institutional investors to consider them.

Right now I have a real conundrum around investing money for the medium-long term. I believe that:
- share prices are at rediculous valuations, only made possible because of near-0 interest rates. If interest rates rise, I think it'll be disastrous for the stock market. My broker unfortunately is a pretty big player in margin lending (no, it's not Robin Hood), and I think a market-wide crash would wipe out most margin lendees and cause big trouble with their total balance sheet. Since this broker holds the share entitlement in their name, I'd be pretty far down the list as a creditor. Even though I consider the risk of a market-wide meltdown low (I think central banks would buy whatever it takes to prevent a sudden crash, although it may prove impossible to stem the tide in case enough investors panic. The non-0 risk has enough downside to make me consider the impact and possible mitigation strategies).
- There's way too much debt in this world to grow out of 'organically'. Near-0 rates and huge amounts of liquidity injections by central banks buy time (or 'kick the can' depending on what your vision is), but there's no 'good' solution in sight for the amount of debt. The low interest rates lead to massive mis-allocation of capital and as a result speculative bubbles everywhere.
- Politicians and central bankers will try and kick the can down the road a long as they can, and at a certain point will have to accept high (or even very high) inflation without raising rates (aka 'financial repression'). There's still a lot of education to do (on my side) to understand what assets are good to invest in during financial repression. I fear there might be 'mostly losers' in this environment, just some people will lose relatively more than others. Maybe having a (relatively) large mortgage on the house you live in, and use the borrowed money to bring down long-term recurrent costs for heating/energy/upkeep/etc. as much as possible is a good strategy.

Long term, I would like:
- to invest in agricultural land in places that is in an area that will 'benefit' from climate change (or at least not do worse). However, it is not very obvious to invest in agricultural land without becoming a farmer (which I don't intend to). Maybe try and find a agricultural cooperative to invest in?
- invest in water purification technology (there seem to be a lot of investment scams around this concept unfortunately)
- electrification / energy generation (most western countries have set themselves goals around usage of electric cars and reducing usage of coal and natural gas, but don't have the equivalent investment in generation and distribution of electric energy; never mind energy storage needed when using renewables such as wind and solar); metal-air batteries show some promise, but there are very few publicly tradeable companies to invest is (maybe the Israeli Phinergy?). Most promising technology companies are in startup phase, and as a private investor you need more money than I have available to be able to invest (such as through a platform like EquityZen).
- fintech that disrupts traditional banks' business model. I'm keeping a close eye on Wise, N26, etc, but they need to become more mature and offer more services in order to really displace traditional banking (or at least, show enough ambition to become like this).

[Umfriend]

Waiting for ABN and FUR (Dutch both) to finally make some serious gains. Probably won't happen until I sell them first. Other holders of these stocks should pay me to sell them

[UtwigMU]

nVidia split 1:4 I'm up 45%

Portfolio up 25% but everyone is a genius in bull market. Saving and thinking for my next investment. I took H1 to double my rainy days cash so I won't feel held back when I see good opportunity. Also I think autumn won't be rosy.

IBKR dropped inactivity fees. I have two shares of Nokia in my meme portfolio which are up nearly 50% (from high 3s to high 5s) Wish I hadn't bothered with PLTR.

[Dr Mordrid]

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In other news, I had my first jab of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday. Second jab scheduled in 6 weeks

We're spacing them 4 weeks apart, and tests are underway exploring mix & matching 2-shot vaccination boosters. Pfizer + Moderna or vice-versa, or can you use a Moderna mutation update if you originally had Pfizer. It'd help flexibility.

Whatever the sequencing, it appears the mRNA technology may be Nobel-worthy, especially if it results in HIV vaccines and outright treatments for chronic conditions.

[Umfriend]

AFAIK, in the UK, most have received just one shot as they wanted to get as many as possible to get at least one shot. That may be a factor.

[dZeus]

MI has almost fully opened, and Memorial Day traffic was murder - looked like much of the populace traveled north to cottages/second homes/campgrounds. Sheesh...

The UK is seeing a slight resurgence of covid cases, mostly of the B 1.617.2 variant. While in early stages, it may mean that the AstraZeneca vaccine does not provide sufficient protection to slow the spread much of this variant. It's too early to say this with confidence though, and the UK's vaccination rate seem to slow down and might reach a plateau that might be below levels providing herd immunity.
I'm not very confident that France will do much better, considering the level of vaccine distrust.

In other news, I had my first jab of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday. Second jab scheduled in 6 weeks.

[Dr Mordrid]

MI has almost fully opened, and Memorial Day traffic was murder - looked like much of the populace traveled north to cottages/second homes/campgrounds. Sheesh...

[dZeus]

Once (or maybe better: if) travel restrictions are fully lifted, I expect IAG, Easyjet and Lufthansa to do really well. IAG has used covid to cut a lot of costs that were not politically easy to cut prior to covid, and they have a near-monopoly on Spanish flights now after their purchase of Air Europa.
Easyjet is overall a very well run airline and as a business traveller I've quite appreciated the quality of travel with them (provided you buy seats with priority boarding and relaxed cabin luggage restrictions). They fly on major airports and could easily snatch up more business travellers who want to save unnecessary costs and/or fly in modern planes.
Lufthansa already has a near-monopoly on flights to/from Germany and have been jacking up the price accordingly even before covid.
I see Air France-KLM as an at-risk company long-term.