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  • Nappe1
    MURCer
    • Jul 2000
    • 561

    #331
    Originally posted by Chrono_Wanderer
    Does anoyone knows how many layers is the P chip/PCB is using? Just wondering.
    8-layers for PCB.

    only M knows chips layer amounts. and I don't think it matters much.
    "Dippadai"

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    • ganyaik
      MURCer
      • Feb 2000
      • 160

      #332
      VigilAnt: Are you still verifying your infos or are you waiting for approval to publish them?

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      • Greebe
        Super MURCer
        • Aug 1999
        • 8555

        #333
        only M knows chips layer amounts.
        Try 7 layers

        and I don't think it matters much.
        Not at all
        "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

        "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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        • RichL
          Restored Super MURCer
          • Apr 2003
          • 1348

          #334
          The information will no doubt be along soon™.
          Athlon XP-64/3200, 1gb PC3200, 512mb Radeon X1950Pro AGP, Dell 2005fwp, Logitech G5, IBM model M.

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          • Kurt
            Super MURCer
            • Feb 2000
            • 1839

            #335
            Originally posted by RichL
            The information will no doubt be along soon™.
            "Real Soon Now™"

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            • chaoliang
              MURCer
              • Feb 2002
              • 496

              #336
              I'm searching hard for a right word to describe the current situation. Any suggestions?

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              • Slougi
                MURCer
                • Feb 2002
                • 368

                #337
                People waiting for something to happen? Angry mob gathering? REVOLUTION?!
                -Slougi

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                • Hati
                  MURCer
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 150

                  #338
                  desperate euphoria ?

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                  • Neomagic_Twist
                    mini MURCer
                    • May 2000
                    • 56

                    #339
                    Imminent ?
                    When I was still a kid, my parents got me a Packard Bell. I've never been happier. Now it's degraded to a foot support.

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                    • Ssin
                      MURCer
                      • May 2002
                      • 182

                      #340
                      What would be the use to have a big chip on small die? The longer the wires, the longer its gonna take for the informations to get through that wire... or so I've been told. It's the same thing for the Crays computers and that's why they have and odd circle form.. to shorten the wires and therefore keep the information at pace with the processors. It's no good to have a Porsche if you're taking longer routes to go from home to work.
                      Let those who want to be simple, be simple.

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                      • R.Carter
                        MURCer
                        • Nov 1999
                        • 136

                        #341
                        Has Pitou petered out?

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                        • Prototype3a
                          mini MURCer
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 21

                          #342
                          The reason the crays are designed that way (and the parhelia mem system too) is so that the information all arrives at each part of the system at the same time. It's not about speed, rather about keeping all the traces on the board/system the same length for a given bus. If the traces are not the same length then the information on each line of a multi line connection arrive at different times and messes up the entire system.
                          -Prototype3a
                          Asus A7V T-bird 950 Win2k pro
                          Radeon 9000Pro 64mb SB-Live! 5.1 Adaptec 39160 Intel nic

                          Sorta missing my G400 Max :-\

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                          • Greebe
                            Super MURCer
                            • Aug 1999
                            • 8555

                            #343
                            @R.Carter

                            Has Matrox even announced a successor to Parhelia? Publically announced a roadmap? Nope, never have

                            (edit:learn howto spell Greebe)
                            Last edited by Greebe; 15 November 2002, 17:52.
                            "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                            "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                            • Wombat
                              Super MURCer
                              • Aug 2000
                              • 9498

                              #344
                              Ssin, you chose a particularly bad example by trying to use Cray to back up your argument.

                              Back when people bought Cray computers, Cray would send out an installation team on site. Once the equipment was on site, the installation team would connect the components together using <I>precise</I> lengths of wire. The lengths were NOT the shortest length possible - they were measured out to lengths so that integer numbers of bits would fit on the wire at the same time, since the WIRE was pipelined delay, and signal delay was tightly controlled.
                              Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                              • rubank
                                MURCer
                                • Aug 1999
                                • 690

                                #345
                                Originally posted by chaoliang
                                I'm searching hard for a right word to describe the current situation. Any suggestions?
                                Déja vue

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