3DMark2001 out TODAY!

[xortam]

Any benchmark is only useful if you understand what exactly the benchmark is measuring and how that relates to your system usage. If you just want to see who gets the highest number (as a MURCer so eloquently stated, you're comparing the length of your winkies), then you aren't mature enough to benefit from benchmarking. You can't very will compare video card performance between multiple systems unless you make sure key operating parameters are equivalent (BIOS, OS level, drivers, etc.). Q3A demos are a good test for me because I'm trying to measure the performance impact of various game parameters and system configurations in order to optimize my Q3A gaming experience. I'm careful about controlling my environment so I can isolate a single variable and measure its impact. If you really are trying to optimize your system, you need to select a benchmark that reflects the way you use your system and carefully control your system while modifying various parameters.

[cbman]

I am all for the mature use of benchmarking... its definately a boon if you use it correctly to test new driver revisions, tweaks, etc.

I wonder if I should make a small program where you input your results from 3DMark2001 (all of them...) and then it calculates a total score on the info to a specification decided by concensus...

Maybe if I have some spare time..


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[Rags]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">seeing you posting a score of 16xx tells me that there IS something majorly wrong on your system </font>

Sorry, there is nothing wrong with my system. If I use the drivers that give the best performance in 3DMark, I cannot even run my debugger with VC++, the debug window just corrupts out. Again, ATI agrees that it's THEIR ****ING DRIVERS CAUSING THE PROBLEM. What part of that don't you understand?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">(or do you have a P90?). </font>

Don't act retarded....err...scratch that, I can't expect that much, so NO I don't have a p90.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">I also can't reproduce your artifacts when using IE and I'm heavily using this with up to 20 windows open most of the time. </font>

You don't have to, and I could care less if you can or not. I have problems with it, ATI knows that their drivers are having these problems, and you don't even come into the equation. So quit calling me a liar.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">but here the only problem with ATIs Win2k drivers up to now has been the sometimes lacking performance.</font>

Again, that's there, and I am here. We have totally different systems and requirements. So save your rhetoric for someone who gives a darn.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Or maybe it's an Intel vs. AMD issue here?</font>

Damn! You are a regular Sherlock Holmes

Rags

[thecurse]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by RAB:
Only 570

G400 Vanilla 6.50 drivers
AMD K6-3 450
256 megs
Win 98 SE with DX 8.0

</font>

g400max
512megs memory
pii 350 (yea my secondary non-server computer right now)
clean install of win me since i jsut got that mobo
latest drivers

3dmark2001 score of 442 :/

piii 933
512 megs
geforce 2 ultra gts 64 megs ddr w/ dvi
clean install of win me (got new 60 gig ibm hd)
det 6.50
3dmark 2001 2419

[SuRGV]

Thecurse,
I think my slower machine can beat your score.
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RESULTS
3DMark Score 2755
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 50.9 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 16.1 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 44.3 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 17.7 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 57.1 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 27.7 fps
Game 4 - Nature Not supported by hardware
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 262.1 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 494.6 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 15.4 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 2.9 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping Not supported by hardware
DOT3 Bump Mapping 40.1 fps
Vertex Shader 24.2 fps
Pixel Shader Not supported by hardware
Point Sprites 6.7 MSprites/s
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I got 2465 score with Det. 6.50. All tests were run in Win2k (SP1).
My system:
PIII 600E@800EB on ASUS P3B-F (ASUS socket 370 Adapter)
Asus 7700 Geforce 2 GTS 32 MB
192 MB generic RAM
Win98/Win2k Dual Boot
DirectX 8.a
...........
Trung

[alessandro]

I get 2687 3dmarks 2001 in Win2k WITHOUT o/c my Radeon and no registry tweaks.
Rags, what CPU do you have?

[cbman]

Oh yeah.. well stick this in your pipe and smoke it... lol

Intel 815 Onboard CUSL2
(I let my brother borrow the GF2)

853 = Massive Speed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Yeah... (PS it may be low but the demos run smooth enough...)

LOL

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[Novdid]

I have posted that I get 424 with my Riva TNT paired up with a K6-2 450. A G400 should get more than that but it doesn´t. This benchmark seriously relies on the CPU.

[Rags]

This was done on a P3 733E.

Rags

[xortam]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by Topha:
i dont really see 3dmarkxxxx as benchmarks ...</font>

Your previous posts in this thread contradict that declaration. There's nothing wrong with enjoying the "eye-candy" used in benchmarks. I still get a kick out of watching the Chamber bench in ZD's 3D WinBench; nice polished floor reflections.

[Topha]

i dont really see 3dmarkxxxx as benchmarks, i just think its cool to see what you can do with a computer, and for taht 2001 is pretty cool (even if you need a gf3 for best results), take the matrix scene for example, or nature, it looks really good

[Osty]

What's up with the new 3D Mark from Mad onion. My G400 is totally hosed with like 6 FPS. I think it's that damn monster. Check out this thread at Mad Onion:
http://discuss.madonion.com/forum/sh...collapsed&sb=5

[Topha]

the scene looks good, although i expected more from the animations after what i read about max payne, and usually i dont really like things that much when i see them the first time, it always takes some time

PS: i just dont like the max payne model

[roadie]

this seems alright for a g400max:

@ default 1367

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athlon classic 666
asus k7m @111fsb
128mb pc100 cas 222
g400max @ 165/220
win98se
pdesk 6.21

[Indiana]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by Topha:
PS: i just dont like the max payne model</font>

Me too, looks a bit too much like "Mika Hakkinen in Matrix-style"...