"Blu-ray Disc" vs. "HD DVD": Neither Is Winning

[Evildead666]

"Stayin' ALive, Stayin' Alive, oooh oooh hooo"

[Nowhere]

grrrr...



Disco! Disco! Disco!

[Brian Ellis]

Downloading HD-TV is deader than disco

[Jerry Jones]

I-O Data releases 16 GB flash drive:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/i-o-data-launches-ultra-tough-16gb-hdmc-flash-drive/

"Freezable, droppable, completely waterproof."

Let the flash memory revolution begin!!!



Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

[Jerry Jones]

Verizon's FiOS speeds increased to 50 Mbps!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/verizon-ups-its-fios-speeds-to-50mbps-sets-the-internet-on-fire/

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

[Jerry Jones]

Pioneer's all new "SyncTV" download service debuts:

http://www.synctv.com/company.html

We know how important audio and video quality are to you. So we have ensured that the audio and video quality of every TV show is comparable or superior to the same show on DVD. Where possible, SyncTV will provide HD programming across the different channels. SyncTV will also have programming available in discreet 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus, giving you the full home theater experience.

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

[Evildead666]

Anyone know how I can set up a proxy to make it look like I have a US ip ?

I would like to see if i can get Joost, the US version...

edit : well, look at the tv shows they enjoy, anyway...

[Evildead666]

They put a cap on the upload at least, thats cool.

But i only have 400Kbps anyway, and tht would seriously screw up my bandwidth, especially the video on skype...

I'm playing around with Joost, but the Country restrictions, and the lack of audio soundtracks put me off...i'd like to be able to watch the films available to the french, in english. ATM its not possible.
Pet Sematary in French is no where any near as good...

[Hulk]

Two questions Jerry.

Do you have a DVD player?

Do you still use it?

Well?

[Jerry Jones]

I still can't see even P2P helping.

Check out Vudu.com, which uses peer-to-peer (P2P), for high definition movie downloads:

http://www.vudu.com/

...high definition downloads from major studios...

...as verified by the news story here:

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6501304.html

Even Macworld... an Apple-related publication... gave Vudu a pretty decent early review:

http://www.macworld.com/2007/10/reviews/vudu/index.php

...and note that the upload bandwidth is capped at a mere 300 Kbps!

With the box connected to the Internet, each Vudu user essentially contributes to a peer-to-peer network to ensure the delivery of every movie. The upload rate is capped at a reasonable rate (300 Kbps), so Vudu won’t make your Internet connection sluggish.

This thing is going to work, in my view.



Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

[Evildead666]

I still can't see even P2P helping.

You're still locked by the characteristics of your Internet connection, and who would be happy to give up their upload bandwidth to the TV ?

How many people already LEECH off of FREE, stolen downloads ? Sh*tloads of people.
People will find ways to make the upload part work as slow as possible, so they can use their favorite chat program, Video-Skype, etc...(DL even more free stuff)

Consumers don't want to be part of the distribution model, even if it is in their interest. For them, they should be paid in some way for the usage of their Internet. For commercial purposes none the less...

People should be 'rewarded' for their upload bandwidth, getting credits for another video rental. If a guy who uploads at 1024K/s is the same as uploading at 12K/s, then why bother ?
This means that the distributor company also has to keep tabs of who's uploading how much, and what, and attributing reward points to them.
That adds a f*ing huge database, a points purchase system, no right to fail.
one mistake, a problem rewarding people, its dead.
People cheating the points system, getting hacked for points, the customer database, aaargggh.

Steam works because they have the database of what you own.
It could work for distribution of Video and Audio, but the files would be on the Internet in a cough.
Games need a lot of files, and have some pretty good protection systems. Which can be updated.

Whats the point of updating DRM on a DVD file thats already been hacked...?

The "I have it in my hands" format for Video/Audio is still gonna be here for a while.

iTunes is doing good, i'll give it to them. But it is Apple. They are their own.

It should be shown how many people use iTunes compared to the OS.
Nearly all Mac users ? Anyone have figures ?

[Hulk]

Two questions Jerry.

Do you have a DVD player?

Do you still use it?

[Jerry Jones]

Even Sony's CEO seems to realize that "HD DVD" and "Blu-ray Disc" are locked in stalemate and -- thus -- are as dead as DISCo:

http://www.hometheatermag.com/news/111307stringer/

Sir Howard Stringer, CEO of Sony, has finally conceded what other observers have been saying for some time: The format war between Blu-ray and HD DVD is stalled in a stalemate.

So...

Sony knows it.

I know it.

The rest of the world knows it.

You know it.



Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

[Nowhere]

Disco is alive!!!


Disco! Disco! Disco!

[Jerry Jones]

Yes, Vudu.com is pioneering this concept with high definition downloads with major studio support.

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6501304.html

Vudu's standard-def content is already optimized for HDTVs, but the high-def content will give customers six times higher resolution than standard-def-encoded films, the company said.

Vudu would join Xbox Live Marketplace as the only other online location for high-definition downloads. Xbox Live has 600 hours of high-def content from major studios and TV networks, a company representative said.

Vudu uses a peer-to-peer service. Movies are downloaded from a number of fellow P2P users that already have the file on their Vudu box. Files can be sent faster than those downloaded from one central server.

http://www.vudu.com/

This "P2P" approach is going to work, in my opinion.

And, of course, it is the reason why "HD DVD" and "Blu-ray Disc" are as dead as DISCo.



Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

ANY download model introduced will HAVE to have a P2P system, to alleviate the need for large, High Bandwidth servers.