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**Jerry Jones** · 25 October 2007, 06:13

Wireless is upon us.

Even good quality wireless stereo speakers are coming in the first quarter of next year:

News

http://www.news.com/Wireless-speakers-Sound-at-last/2100-1041_3-6214456.html?tag=nefd.pop

Our experts highlight the events shaping tomorrow.

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

**Mehen** · 25 October 2007, 22:52

Is this thread still going?

**Brian Ellis** · 26 October 2007, 03:47

Premium (1500K) Download

Approximate file size: 1.5GB
Sound: Stereo

Premium movies are of superior playback quality. This is a larger file. A higher speed broadband connection is recommended and the ability to Play the movie while it is downloading may take longer.

This was taken from the download of Caligula, a Hollywood blockbuster, on one of the download sites you recommended. How can you possibly pretend that this is good quality when it is 1/5th the size of a DVD and 1/20th the size of HD-DVD? Get real! I'll still buy my films on DVD, thank you very much!

**Jerry Jones** · 26 October 2007, 06:01

Brian,

Downloadable high definition movies are not based on the outdated MPEG-2 compression.

Downloadable high definition movies are often based on H.264, which is a superior type of compression.

So the file size will be smaller.

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

Originally posted by Brian Ellis View Post

This was taken from the download of Caligula, a Hollywood blockbuster, on one of the download sites you recommended. How can you possibly pretend that this is good quality when it is 1/5th the size of a DVD and 1/20th the size of HD-DVD? Get real! I'll still buy my films on DVD, thank you very much!

**Jerry Jones** · 26 October 2007, 06:41

CinemaNow publishes this information about file size of high definition titles:

Video File Info:
CinemaNow HD BETA Download

Approx File Size: 8000K
Sound= 5.1

High Definition files are available for purchase. These files are extremely large and if your system does not meet the additional requirements listed above you will experience issues with corrupted video and sound. These files will also take a longer time to download than a Premium (1500K) file does from CinemaNow, and will require much of your computers processor speed. We recommend a Media Center if you are interested in purchase a lot of High Definition product from CinemaNow. Once these files are downloaded, you will be able to see the superior picture quality of High Definition Content.

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

**Jerry Jones** · 26 October 2007, 07:59

News

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9804619-7.html?tag=nefd.only

Our experts highlight the events shaping tomorrow.

Let's be honest with ourselves: at this point, who really cares which format is outselling the other? After each report of higher sales, the backers of the opposing format come out and proclaim their own dominance due to factors a and b. Once that's complete, the winning victor (in this case, Blu-ray) comes out and cites those sales figures just one more time.

Suffice it to say, I'm just plain tired of this war.

Dead as disc-o, baby.

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

**Hulk** · 26 October 2007, 08:37

Originally posted by Brian Ellis View Post

This was taken from the download of Caligula, a Hollywood blockbuster, on one of the download sites you recommended. How can you possibly pretend that this is good quality when it is 1/5th the size of a DVD and 1/20th the size of HD-DVD? Get real! I'll still buy my films on DVD, thank you very much!

Exactly right Brian. That is the truth no matter how many cherry picked quotes get posted. There is no way to spin the fact that there are basically NO HD movies available for download and even SD is limited by number and quality.

This is all due to the inherent restriction in bandwidth of the internet. Manufacturers know this and are treading carefully in the download arena.

Jeez. For $10/month you can have a Netflix account (at least in the US) and rent just about every SD title you can imagine, plus a decent and growing catalog of HD content.

Saying optical is dead is quite premature since millions of people of using optical media. As Brian said VHS is essentially dead. But even with that statement you can make the argument that lots of people have a few machines hooked up to their TV's and still use them to record shows now and then. I know I do. Luckily I know Jerry doesn't mean what he is preaching. He's just having fun with us.

**Jerry Jones** · 26 October 2007, 09:37

1. There are a total of 71 downloadable high definition titles on 8 CinemaNow Web site pages so far starting on this page:

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http://www.cinemanow.com/CinemaNow-HD/1010,1,5,,5,2,0/

2. APPLEâ€™s iTunes store has a wealth of standard definition titles with HD titles on the way:

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http://www.apple.com/itunes/store/movies.html

3. Axiomâ€™s Web site features a wealth of standard definition downloadable titles:

http://www.axiom.tv/

4. MovieLinkâ€™s Web site features a wealth of standard definition downloadable titles:

http://www.movielink.com/store/web/home/home.jsp;jsessionid=LPHV521LPYIECCQ2M5SSAOQ?_requestid=53508

5. A wealth of high definition movies are now available for download to Xbox 360 hard disks:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/marketplace/moviestv/looneytunes.htm

6. Amazon unbox offers thousands of standard definition titles:

http://www.amazon.com/b/?&node=16261631

7. Guba offers a wealth of content for download here:

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And online downloading of movies and TV shows has only just begun.

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

**Jerry Jones** · 26 October 2007, 09:45

Originally posted by Hulk View Post

Luckily I know Jerry doesn't mean what he is preaching. He's just having fun with us.

I stand by my assertion.

"Blu-ray Disc" and "HD DVD" are as dead as disco.

Had the two sides dropped prices sooner, they might have gained some significant traction by now.

They haven't.

Now downloading of HD and SD content is upon us.

High definition optical disc formats are now obsolete.

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

**Jerry Jones** · 26 October 2007, 10:04

Here's a Web page on AMAZON that explains how Amazon's unbox downloads work:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/help/faq.html/002-8429221-3480035?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=1JE221X6618B55Q95WC0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=298517001&pf_rd_i=16261631

Thousands of titles.

The selection of online titles will expand in a very significant way within the next (6) six months as increasing numbers of consumers grasp the irrefutable truth that "HD DVD" and "Blu-ray Disc" are as dead as disco.

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

**Jerry Jones** · 26 October 2007, 10:21

http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13506_1-9746691-17.html?tag=blog.1

For years, we have been under the impression that the only way to get movies into our homes is to use hardware. And while that may have been true years ago, that idea is a bunch of hogwash now.

This brilliant online writer is also joining the chorus of consumer voices chanting the mantra that "HD DVD" and "Blu-ray Disc" are as dead as disco.

Jerry Jones

http://www.jonesgroup.net

**Elie** · 26 October 2007, 10:48

Originally posted by Jerry Jones View Post

I stand by my assertion.

"Blu-ray Disc" and "HD DVD" are as dead as disco.

Had the two sides dropped prices sooner, they might have gained some significant traction by now.

They haven't.

Now downloading of HD and SD content is upon us.

High definition optical disc formats are now obsolete.

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

Jerry, that will never happen, looking at the big picture and not what the press and other companies speculate, many people simply don't have the capacity, technology or the bandwidth to download HD content and view it on their TV, maybe that will happen 7 years from now (for the masses) but not today.

people will still go to HMV, best Buy, Blockbuster and buy/rent HD-DVD or BluRay or even DVD's as they always have, and based on that as well as price, one of the two formats will win.

The internet cannot sustain that kind of bandwidth demands if everyone started streaming or downloading HD content.
Also you think everyone has a PC capable of playing back HD at home? You will require a TV set-top box that has Ip connectivity in order to stream the content to your TV, and even if such technology is available, your TV or internet provider has to have their network ready for such bandwidth, and if I were the provider I would want the best possible HD signal sent to my clients which is minimum 18Mbps.

So streaming/download HD content is not a viable alternative, I don't care what anyone/reporter says. Discs will not go the way of the dodo just yet or ever, I personally like to own the media I purchase, also for the extra content included in the DVD's HD/Blu whatever.

Regards,
Elie