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Re: OK IT worked

Originally posted by dizzynoodle
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1. I had to make the voltage 1.8V as supposed to 1.75 which is on the chip - that should be fine right - no harm ?

You'll be fine. My buddy runs my old 850 at 2.05v w/o problems. Just check your temperatures, especially on hot days where ambient temperatures can soar.

2. I have PC100[128MBX2] + PC133 [256mbX1] Ram on the machine, when i boot with a 133mhz bus speed setting, i only get 256 mb ram, i guess the PC100 stops working. The CPU is recognized as PIII 800 here SOLUTION i can buy an extra 256MB Ram [PC133} damn cheap if it will solve the problem

But is it safe to keep the MOBO running at 133MHZ or will the MOBO get damaged overtime, the CPU does not seem to overheat !

Running a 100 MHz part at 133 MHz is called overclocking. You can overclock as long as your system stays w/i temp and the system is stable. You'll probably replace the CPU w/i a few years before any o/c ills have prematurely killed your CPU.

3. When i boot the machine with bus speed of 100Mhz, the CPU is recognized as a PIII 600 ! but the RAM amount is correct 512MB, what 's happening here ? will the performance be the same ?

The shop probably sold you a 133 MHz CPU vs. a 100 MHz part. What does the packaging state for the system bus speed?

ALso, is it nessecary to reset BIOS settings to default after upgrading the BIOS ? It seems to drive my DSL and a few other things crazy when i reset the BIOS settings ! Will it impact speed stability if i do not ?!?

I don't know why ASUS recommends you first reset the settings but simply set them to your normal settings afterwards.

Also how can i measure if there is heat build up ? just touch the CPU / heat sink if it is hot ? or the MOBO / chips on the on MOBO?

Attach a thermistor adjacent to the CPU substrate and connect it to the MB. Use the BIOS temperature readings or the ASUS probe utility. There are also other third-party utilities that some MURCers prefer.

Also, since the multiplier id locked, the only option to overclock is the increase the buss speed, but i think i will be pushing it there if i go further than 133MHZ on a 100MHZ board right ? What about the voltage to the CPU ? Now it's 1.8 what if i bump it up a bit, will it help or damage ?

You can continue to push the FSB speed as long as all of your cards and components (e.g. RAM) can work together at that speed. Simply run stressful apps to test for stability.

[dizzynoodle]

will it ?

Mu CPU is a 133MHZ peice.

A whirling noise happens everytime there is a CPU activity, is that normal ? No heat problems though !

I may give the machine a try at 150MHZ, do you think i'm being rideculous overclocking that far ? will it harm any components ? or should i push the Vcore value. WHich is sfare and which is more effective ?

[Greebe]

A whirling noise happens everytime there is a CPU activity, is that normal ?

Is this the HD you're hearing?

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You can only OC as high as the quality of the parts will allow... AFAIK If you have quality mem and your cpu will run at these speeds (with increased Vcore voltage) and proper cooling this is possible. If the cpu is capable yes, but if Vcore isn't sufficient then it will crash, if proper cooling isn't heeded then it can burn up.

Yes there is the possibility of damage to componets, but with a little patients and upping a bit at a time, you most likely can go a bit higher.

[xortam]

You have the wrong CPU again. You have a 100 MHz FSB MB running a 133 MHz CPU ... that's called underclocking. An 800 MHz CPU for the 133 MHz FSB (800EB) will run at 600 MHz when it is underclocked on a 100 MHz bus (800 * 100/133). Return the CPU and get the 100 MHz bus version.

AFA whirling noise, that's the hamsters running faster to keep up with the CPU demand. You'll have to be more descriptive on this one ... where, when, better noise description, etc.

[Greebe]

Agreed... the "E" part (100mHz) for OCing and the "EB" (133mHz) for running at default speeds.

[xortam]

Mike ... he has a P2B which is designed for the 100 MHz FSB. The 800 would run at default at 100 MHz and the 800EB would be underclocked. Of course he can try overclocking the 800 by pushing the FSB above 100 MHz.

BTW dizzynoodle ... here's the Intel specs on various P!!!s.

[Greebe]

I know what he has.. problem is he's starting two threads on similar issues but different MB's without resolving the first one beforehand. I asked DN to look at this post from the other cause he doesn't know the particulars of any of this!

To be honest this thread is a cluster **** and should be locked... but seeing that I don't have any control over posters whom give ill advice what am I todo???

[dizzynoodle]

Can't get it !

There are no 100Mhz non-slot1 [370] CPUs around here. So i was forced to getthe 133Mhz, i had already paid.

See the setup runs at 800 when the MOBO is set to 133 fine with no problems, that by itself is considered ovecloacking i guess, right ? In that case over-overcloking it [as i would do if the CPU was a 100mhz] i would need to set the MOBO to 150Mhz and/or push the Vcore.

Greebe, i understand your point about not asking before trying, but i don't want to fry anything here ! I know you'll understand where i'm coming from

Th whirling noise seems to be coming from the heatsink / fan setup... no it's not the HDD !

[Greebe]

I know you'll understand where i'm coming from

Actually I don't... but that's because I've never fried a cpu in 17+ years of OCing!

But For someone who doesn't have the knowledge I can respect where they are coming from

Now this info has been posted in this forum at least a hundred times on every issue pertaining to these MB's/cpu's/cooling issues. If our world famous Jorden had compiled this info and put it into a Faq this would be easy matter of reading through them for your particular questions. But no, it's not there... not even to help him out. *sigh*

Most of us use the search feature so not to overburden others/prevent innaccurate responces from reoccuring.

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Re: Can't get it !

Originally posted by dizzynoodle
See the setup runs at 800 when the MOBO is set to 133 fine with no problems, that by itself is considered ovecloacking i guess, right ? In that case over-overcloking it [as i would do if the CPU was a 100mhz] i would need to set the MOBO to 150Mhz and/or push the Vcore.

The CPU is running nominally at 133 MHz. The MB is being o/c'ed when the FSB is set above 100 MHz. The PC133 RAM would be running nominally and the PC100 RAM would be overclocked.

Th whirling noise seems to be coming from the heatsink / fan setup... no it's not the HDD !

Is this a retail CPU or did the store add the HSF? The noise is somehow tied to CPU usage?

Takes patience Mike. I hope someday we'll get Jordey trained concerning multipliers. You'd think he'd learn after countless explanations.

P.S. I did recommend doing a search on this popular topic but you saw how well people listened to my early suggestions.

[Greebe]

I'm trying Xor... just after being offline for a few days I return to this monstrosity with many complaining about it.

Diz, my point is I don't want to see you get confoozed by dribble and get the facts as they should be presented. Going about it this way should prevent any major oops's from occuring, ie a fried cpu/MB (etc) will not make a happy camper.

[Electric Amish]

Ok, after winding my way through this thoroughly and unnecessarily confusing thread here's what I've got to say:

1) Leave the multiplier jumpers alone. They don't do anything on todays Pentium processors.

2) From what I can see you are not overclocking anything. If the Motherboard will allow you to run at 133mhz then it supports it. The CPU is supposed to run at 133mhz. That's why it only boots at 600mhz when you set the FSB at 100mhz. It was made for the 133mhz bus speed.


amish

[dizzynoodle]

Thanx all !

Well i think this thread has probably come to an end... it was a long on ..eh ? I know nothing to be excited about ! Alot of crappy repetitive questions from me...

I have managed to get the setup running at 800 /133. The BSOD showed up when i tried to push the machine to 140Mhz ! So iguess i should just leave everything as is. Runs faster than a PII 400 ! No need for me to get overexcited here !

Thanx all for your help on this one. I have started ripping out the guts of an old PI 200 MMx machine that i will stick in it the P3B-F with the old PII 400 ! SIlly that i did not use the P3B-F on the fater chip but i don't want to mess around with configs of many devices... i don't think the performance improvment would grant all the pain !

Greeb sorry for the cross posting, it was not intentional

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You realize that a P!!!/800 on your current 133 MHz bus setting, vs. the 800EB you have, would yield over 1 GHz (1064 MHz) CPU for about the same price?

[dizzynoodle]

is there any real world difference ?

will i see the difference in my work though ? I may sound a bit anal asking, but would it really ?

Also, is there a chnace if i get the 800/100 that it does not wok well / is unstable at 133... could it put more starin on the system ? or not ... Coz if there is 1% chance then i would not do it as the guy in the store would kill me before giving me back the 800/133 !

watcha think ?