Buy GTS2 or wait for G800 ??

[Cypro]

Hi Guyz,

the question is quite simple.
Should I buy a Geforce GTS2 now, or wait for the G800.
I am a loyal Matrox buyer but the new GeForce 2 specs and benchmarks are quite impressive !!!

[Corwin_Brute]

It depends on what you have now. A G400 is (I think) enough to wait for the G800^H^H^H^H "next chip", especially if you have a nice processor to back it up.
The GTS's specs surely look impressive, but I'm very concerned about the memory architecture of the chip : look at 32bit results, the card's bandwidth plainly sucks. The pixel shading sure is a very nice feature, but it needs lots of programming, and it will probably end like T&L, a nice useless feature for about 6-8 months. By the time, even NVidia will have something new...

I think more and more about getting a Voodoo5 5500 (FSAA looks damn sweet), and wait for the G800^H^H^H^H "next chip".

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Corwin the Brute

[MegaManX4]

Hmm, The GTS 2 will be very fast, but it comes for about 850 Deutschmarks (nearly 425$!). It's waaaayyyyyyyyyyy to expensive. Man, for that money i can buy an Athlon 600 with a shiny new Kx133 Board

[MegaManX4]

Hmm, The GTS 2 will be very fast, but it comes for about 850 Deutschmarks (nearly 425$!). It's waaaayyyyyyyyyyy to expensive. Man, for that money i can buy an Athlon 600 with a shiny new Kx133 Board

[Sensei]

That's a silly argument. Yes, Nvidia brings out a chip every 6th months. That doesn't mean that the card you got is any less good than it would be if they only brought out a card every 9 months or something. Another thing, the whole "Should I wait for..." things are kind of pointless at this point. If you want immediate gratification, get a Geforce 2 GTS. If you want to play it safe and actually be able to compare the G800 and Geforce 2 GTS, then you're gonna have to wait.

Sensei

[Corwin_Brute]

Sensei, there are 2 points you miss :
- the fact that the new features in a NVidia card (T&L for the GeForce, pixel shaders in the GeForce 2) won't be used in games before the next product is out. You buy a GeForce for all the great T&L games, and they are not yet out that your GeForce looks obsolete in regard of the GeForce 2.
- throwing out a new processor every 6 months means that NVidia does not have the time to rethink their architecture. Look at the GeForce 2 : even with the best memory available now (for a "decent" price, that is), the card is bandwidth limited. What really get on my nerves is seeing NVidia trolls putting the blame on memory manufacturers...

I suspect that many NVidia fans (not the true zealots) will start feeling a bit upset...


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Corwin the Brute

[Stringy]

It comes down to do you want it now, then buy it... it doesn't matter if something will be released in 6 months, that's gonna happen with Matrox as well, it just prolly won't be a matrox card being released...

it also doesn't matter if ALL the features are supported or used now, the Card is Still fast, faster than any of todays offerings...

If you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket and want better performance NOW, then Go for the best on the market (as far as Gaming is concerned)

for myself I like to wait till all the players are on the field, or atleast most of them before I make my choice... Besides the price premium will go down alittle...

I am used to Matrox, I wanna see what they have to offer, they seemed to read my mind with the G400... Maybe the G800 (or whatever) will be just perfect for me as well...

Craig

[Dionysis]

I don't want to lose the image quality my G400MAX offers me..
Think about this..G400 still generates enough frames for any kind of game to run fast and be playable
T&L is still useless, and yet no other card can perform TRUE HARDWARE EMBM..
The best Geforce and Rodeon can do is DOT product 3....
NO F***** WAY
I'll wait for G800

[The PIT]

If you wait theres always a new product coming out. You can play that game forever. If you got the dosh and feel like upgrading do it or if your like me and you haven't got the dosh lying around you wait.
Personally I'm waiting for the G800 because by then I may have some cash around.

[Dyre]

Just thought i should clarify the 6 month cycle nVIDIA runs on. They have 3 product development teams, all working seperatly. Now that the NV15 has been released you can expect than anouther team of engineers have Alpha silicon for the NV20 in place and are testing like crazy, while anouther team are looking at the NV20 and deciding what to keep and what to tweak for the NV25. And right now the NV15 team will begin work on thier mobile GeForce Chips and such....

Thats one reason thier prices are so high. Also, you are buying from a third party source, not nVIDIA....

Hope that helps, i dont know if its realy relavent... just some clarification.

[Cypro]

What I meant was not if it either of one will be too expensive, but the performence.
I heard the Geforce 2 GTS can do 72 frames at 1600 x 1200 in Quake 2

Cypro

[DuRaNgO[MU]]

maybe if you told us what you're running now, we could answer this more intelligently
jim

[tuco]

the question you've got to ask your self is, do you want to spend that kind of money knowing that nvidia will bring out a successor in 6 months time. at least with matrox i know that the product will have enough thought go into the g800 that it won't be suceeded every 6 months. just look at how many cards nvidia have churned out during the life span of the g400, no game so far has pushed my g400max so hard that i,ve thought about upgrading. the one thing i have learned is, i'm going to pre order the g800 as soon as possible, last time i waited 2months with only a 4mb cirruslogic to play with.

[tuco]

the question you've got to ask your self is, do you want to spend that kind of money knowing that nvidia will bring out a successor in 6 months time. at least with matrox i know that the product will have enough thought go into the g800 that it won't be suceeded every 6 months. just look at how many cards nvidia have churned out during the life span of the g400, no game so far has pushed my g400max so hard that i,ve thought about upgrading. the one thing i have learned is, i'm going to pre order the g800 as soon as possible, last time i waited 2months with only a 4mb cirruslogic to play with.

[tuco]

the question you've got to ask your self is, do you want to spend that kind of money knowing that nvidia will bring out a successor in 6 months time. at least with matrox i know that the product will have enough thought go into the g800 that it won't be suceeded every 6 months. just look at how many cards nvidia have churned out during the life span of the g400, no game so far has pushed my g400max so hard that i,ve thought about upgrading. the one thing i have learned is, i'm going to pre order the g800 as soon as possible, last time i waited 2months with only a 4mb cirruslogic to play with.