OCing like a MaggiFo

[SteveC]

Originally posted by yepitsme:
e-mail me i won't tell anyone

Hey - that must be one of the weakest attempts ever to get info out of us!!



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Cheers,
Steve

"Life is what we make of it, yet most of us just fake"

[Pace]

No, email me, I might not tell anyone

Paul.

[yepitsme]

OK, i got a new G450 32DDR and i did some
overclocking with it and was better than i
expected : 151/190MHz and in 3dMark
not a single white dot or flash , with
158/198MHz helicopter game run perfectly but adventure game had some flashes here and there. Scores were 151/190 2917p and 158/198 3034p.

This card is revision .208 and the earlier was .205. Could the difference between these cards be 1000/144 = 7ns and 1000/166 = 6ns ?

[yepitsme]

These are with 156/196MHz settings

CPU Intel Pentium III 896MHz

3D Accelerator Matrox Millennium G450 DualHead - English

Chipset Unknown

Resolution 1024x768 16 bit

Z-Buffer Depth 16-bit

Frame Buffer Triple

Refresh Rate V Sync.Off

CPU Optimization Intel(R) Pentium(R) III





3DMark Result 3010 3D marks

CPU Speed 285 CPU 3D marks

Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail 58.35 FPS

Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail 40.67 FPS

Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail 17.36 FPS

Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail 52.50 FPS

Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail 47.24 FPS

Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail 34.71 FPS

Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 275.72 MTexels/s

Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 275.91 MTexels/s

High Polygon Count (1 Light) 2,913 KTriangles/s

High Polygon Count (4 Lights) 2,430 KTriangles/s

High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 2,131 KTriangles/s

8MB Texture Rendering Speed 167.41 FPS

16MB Texture Rendering Speed 161.30 FPS

32MB Texture Rendering Speed 122.23 FPS

64MB Texture Rendering Speed 94.67 FPS

Bump Mapping (Emboss, 3-pass) 68.69 FPS

Bump Mapping (Emboss, 2-pass) 90.82 FPS

Bump Mapping (Emboss, 1-pass) 155.18 FPS

Bump Mapping (Environment) 78.88 FPS

Published Yes

[Maggi]

Looks good !



Interesting to see the gain, isn't it ?

Cheers,
Maggi

[Himself]

What I find interesting is the third adventure gaming test, that one is unusually high compared to the rest. Perhaps it's the cpu.

[Himself]

Here are my scores using the V3 1.07 driver, the cpu at 850 and the V3 at 178MHz (V3 2000 without a fan, however I just added an intake fan at the front of the case):

D3D Hardware T&L:

TEMPLATE
Display:
Type: Internal
Width: 1024
Height: 768
Depth: 16-Bit
Buffering: Triple
Z-Buffering: 16-Bit
Refresh Rate: VSync Off
Texture Format: 16-Bit

Options:
CPU Optimization: D3D Hardware T&L

RESULTS
Platform: Internal
3DMark Result: 3204 3D marks
CPU Speed: 225 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail: 66.0 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail: 46.4 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail: 20.6 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail: 64.4 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail: 43.9 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail: 25.8 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing): 175.1 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing): 344.8 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light): 2528 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights): 2280 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights): 2012 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 151.0 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 61.1 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 6.9 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed: 2.6 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 3-pass): 105.9 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 2-pass): 143.4 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 1-pass): Not supported FPS
Bump Mapping (Environment): Not supported FPS

SYSTEM
Software Versions:
Windows Version Windows 4 A , Build 2222
DirectX Version 4.08.00.0400
Bios Version Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Bios Date 09/19/00

Memory:
Total Physical Memory 128MB
Free Physical Memory 76MB

PROCESSOR
CPU Information:
Processor Type AMD Duron(tm) Processor
Processor Speed 850MHz
Processor Caps Enhanced 3DNow!/MMX

Cache Memory:
L1 Cache Size 128KB
L2 Cache Size 64KB

DESKTOP
2D Display Adapter:
Name 3dfx Voodoo3
Driver Date 11-10-2000

Monitor:
Name Plug and Play Monitor
Driver Date 4-23-1999

Desktop Size and Color Depth:
Width 1280
Height 960
Color Depth 16 bit

D3D Software T&L:

Options:
CPU Optimization: D3D Software T&L

RESULTS
Platform: Internal
3DMark Result: 3009 3D marks
CPU Speed: 198 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail: 63.6 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail: 42.4 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail: 19.2 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail: 62.9 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail: 39.5 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail: 23.1 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing): 175.1 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing): 344.8 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light): 3080 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights): 2468 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights): 1938 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 151.2 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 148.1 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 92.3 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed: 13.5 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 3-pass): 105.9 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 2-pass): 143.4 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 1-pass): Not supported FPS
Bump Mapping (Environment): Not supported FPS

Athlon T&L:

CPU Optimization: AMD Athlon(tm)

RESULTS
Platform: Internal
3DMark Result: 2946 3D marks
CPU Speed: 176 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail: 62.6 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail: 41.4 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail: 15.6 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail: 62.7 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail: 40.1 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail: 23.0 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing): 175.1 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing): 344.8 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light): 2664 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights): 2432 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights): 2104 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 151.2 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 148.3 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 120.5 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed: 17.0 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 3-pass): 105.8 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 2-pass): 143.3 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss, 1-pass): Not supported FPS
Bump Mapping (Environment): Not supported FPS

[SteveC]

D3D Hardware T&L on a Voodoo 3?!?!?!

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Cheers,
Steve

"Life is what we make of it, yet most of us just fake"

[Himself]

It was a software emulation of it in the drivers, it takes advantage of code that optimizes for hardware T&L.

[roadie]

here are my scores with g400 max, it is the best for my cpu speed and above some way aswell

http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare.shtml?559542

(2k)

http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?581715

(2k1)

[TdB]

TdB

here is my 3dmark2k score:


YOUR 3DMARK2000

RESULTS IN DETAIL


Project Name TdB
CPU Intel Pentium III 800 Mhz
3D Accelerator 3D Prophet 4500
Graphics Chipset STMicro KYRO II
Resolution 1024x768 32bit
Z-Buffer Depth 32bit
Frame Buffer Triple
CPU Optimization Intel(R) Pentium(R) III





3DMark Result 4265 3D marks
CPU Speed -6 CPU 3D marks

Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail 83.8 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail 55.6 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail 23.7 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail 106.5 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail 54.3 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail 31.4 FPS

Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 347.2 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 347.7 MTexels/s

High Polygon Count (1 Light) 3794.3 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights) 3488.8 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 3028.6 KTriangles/s

8MB Texture Rendering Speed 255.4 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed 252.7 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed 228.0 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed 191.3 FPS

Bump Mapping (Emboss 3-pass) 170.9 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss 2-pass) 136.3 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss 1-pass) 140.0 FPS
Bump Mapping (Environment) 55.1 FPS

Published Yes
Compare URL
» http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare.shtml?2093402




it is in 32bit, but it shouldn´t make a big difference since its a kyro2



and here is one with a small cpu-overclock:




Project Name TdB
CPU Intel Pentium III 840 Mhz
3D Accelerator 3D Prophet 4500
Graphics Chipset STMicro KYRO II
Resolution 640x480 32bit
Z-Buffer Depth 32bit
Frame Buffer Triple
CPU Optimization Intel(R) Pentium(R) III


3DMark Result 4472 3D marks
CPU Speed -6 CPU 3D marks

Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail 89.7 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail 56.9 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail 23.3 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail 115.1 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail 55.5 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail 32.2 FPS

Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 344.3 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 346.1 MTexels/s

High Polygon Count (1 Light) 3870.3 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights) 3469.7 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 3071.6 KTriangles/s

8MB Texture Rendering Speed 725.8 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed 667.5 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed 441.3 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed 216.2 FPS

Bump Mapping (Emboss 3-pass) 426.5 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss 2-pass) 288.4 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss 1-pass) 195.5 FPS
Bump Mapping (Environment) 117.3 FPS

Published Yes
Compare URL
» http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare.shtml?2111383


again it is a non-default setting because i wanted to see high my overclock affected the benchmark, the cpu is still the bottleneck it seems.

i only gained around 100 3dmarks with a 40mhz overclock

[Novdid]

Here are my Kyro 2 results. In Win2K i got 6200, but now I run WinXP so here goes.

3DMark Result 5893 3D marks
CPU Speed 352 CPU 3D marks

Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail 103.4 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail 77.3 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail 35.3 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail 148.3 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail 81.0 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail 45.7 FPS

Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 348.3 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 348.1 MTexels/s

High Polygon Count (1 Light) 5084.9 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights) 4772.5 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 4196.9 KTriangles/s

8MB Texture Rendering Speed 382.8 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed 372.5 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed 323.4 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed N/A FPS

Bump Mapping (Emboss 3-pass) 212.7 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss 2-pass) 193.5 FPS
Bump Mapping (Emboss 1-pass) 192.0 FPS
Bump Mapping (Environment) 84.6 FPS

Athlon 1333@1466.
Asus A7V133
512 MB RAM
Hercules 3dprophet 4500 64 MB

[TdB]

TdB

so thats how a kyro2 with a fast cpu looks like!

tell me novdid, is the cpu still the bottleneck or is the kyro2 maxed out??

[Phobiac]

Hello from Spain.

Matrox Millenium G400 16MB SH 156/208

Duron 750@950

3DMark Result: 3144 3D marks

http://usuarios.tripod.es/matroxfotos/

[Wombat]

Okay, it's time this thread got punted to the Benchmarks forum.