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**WyWyWyWy** · 13 August 2002, 01:15

Instead of Linux, you should say XFree86 drivers so that it would work cross-platform (I want it in my FreeBSD), kind of like how Gxx0 driver is now.

**UberLord** · 13 August 2002, 04:23

Originally posted by Ryu Connor

Windows 2000 (sadly) and Windows ME are growing ever closer to the own termination point. It would seem that Windows 2000 users will be lucky to see a SP4 at the current rate.

Most business will be using Windows 2000 for a good while to come yet - there's no way M$ can stop supporting it and force them to move to XP.

**Pace** · 13 August 2002, 04:54

Yup, Microsoft have indeed messed up. They should've had activation/subscription stuff in Win2k to get the money from businesses then.

Most places I know (with 'real' networks) were very reluctant to leave NT4, but started to give in to Win2k now. I believe my University in fact will add 3 Win2k labs for 1st/2nd years on my return. And do you think they will really want XP? To business, I'd think XP looks like a Home Edition all round.

Long live Win2k (and NT4 for that matter

).

P.

**Wienerschnitzl** · 13 August 2002, 05:15

Originally posted by UberLord
Thats a valid point - but here's a counter argument

Take a decent rock-solid OS like Linux or *BSD
Many apps require a GUI of some sorts, so a basic 2D driver fits the bill very nicely.

After this userbase goes "ooooohhhh ahhhhh" when the 2D works, Matrox can then concenrate on getting 3D support + PD options working

Bottom line is that a lotta stuff needs 2D working as the bare minimum. 3D shitz is optional

ok, for a start 2D-only is ok.
But 2D-only forever, that useless in my eyes.
Don´t get me wrong: W98 is more for gaming than for working, imho
so you oly need to set a few "gaming-parameters", not every feature...

regards

**Joel** · 13 August 2002, 06:21

Interesting results considering all the ranting and raving going on about Matrox not creating Parhelia drivers for Win 98/ME.

Joel

**UberLord** · 13 August 2002, 07:38

Originally posted by Wienerschnitzl

ok, for a start 2D-only is ok.
But 2D-only forever, that useless in my eyes.

True, but would you take a working 2D driver this week or wait 6 months until they get 3D working?

I know exactly what route I would take.

Now if they "sure we can do a 2D driver but we have no plans for 3D" then thats a whole different kettle of fish and no graphics company in their right mind should be doing this.

**UberLord** · 13 August 2002, 07:40

Originally posted by Joel
Interesting results considering all the ranting and raving going on about Matrox not creating Parhelia drivers for Win 98/ME.

Joel

Maybe it forced people to upgrade when they first heard about it and voted accordingly.

Would have been better to add another option "Already upgraded to Win2K/XP due to no drivers for Win9x/ME"

**Zanna** · 13 August 2002, 08:14

Originally posted by UberLord
Maybe it forced people to upgrade when they first heard about it and voted accordingly.

Would have been better to add another option "Already upgraded to Win2K/XP due to no drivers for Win9x/ME"

I think you are right.

Can a moderator add that option (please) ?

Goodbye....

**atko** · 13 August 2002, 10:08

Originally posted by WyWyWyWy
Instead of Linux, you should say XFree86 drivers so that it would work cross-platform (I want it in my FreeBSD), kind of like how Gxx0 driver is now.

I voted for Liunx drivers, because we need a good cross-platform XFree86 driver for Parhelia. I'm waiting for such a thing before buy a P.

**UberLord** · 13 August 2002, 11:29

Originally posted by atko

I voted for Liunx drivers, because we need a good cross-platform XFree86 driver for Parhelia. I'm waiting for such a thing before buy a P.

Linux driver != cross platform

XFree86 driver == cross platform

The Kyro driver suffers from this flaw - hopefully Matrox won't make the same mistake

**Belwarrior** · 13 August 2002, 11:35

Even though i am primarily using win2k personally, i would like to have full support for win9x (basic support for win3.x is a bonus) because as a technician in a cybercafe we use win98SE as the popular games old and new still runs on it without giving much problems. We are using nvidia cards at the moment and i cant recommend parhelia if there is no support for win98 at least. Alot of my customers do graphic design (arts school nearby) and grumble about the picture quality. Having parhelias would make both gamers and designers happy. Personally i wouldnt buy P unless it supports win98, win2k and linux.

**atko** · 13 August 2002, 12:37

Originally posted by UberLord
Linux driver != cross platform

XFree86 driver == cross platform

Yes you are absolutely right, but in this poll we could only vote for Linux drivers not for XFree86 drivers.

**Ryu Connor** · 13 August 2002, 14:29

Most business will be using Windows 2000 for a good while to come yet - there's no way M$ can stop supporting it and force them to move to XP.

No way?

You and I must know rather different Microsofts.

**UberLord** · 13 August 2002, 16:27

Originally posted by Ryu Connor

No way?

You and I must know rather different Microsofts.

I am well aquainted with The Beast. What they is rarely what they actually do...

**Colette27** · 13 August 2002, 19:10

--Not good for me!

I talked my company into ordering 14 new Matrox cards, I'm the IT person i guess, anyways,

They show up, and NO WIN 98 drivers!!

They are all being sent back. My boss isn't very happy, and says if a computer hardware company cant support his business, he doesnt need them.

Thanks a lot Matrox, and all the Matrox moderators on this forum who betray the common woman who doesnt have time to review 20 different reviews.

Colette S.

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