PHA8x128 arrived today!

[DGhost]

Originally posted by Wombat
I wouldn't buy from Monarch. I've had a bad time with them.

I agree. I tried to order a Parhelia from them when they were first released, and after 2 weeks they had not even shipped it. If I remember right, I canceled it and purchased it from a different vendor.

[Che Guevara]

Originally posted by borat
heres the picture of faa, notice that the edge between the grass and sky is not properly seen to.

Damn, we should investigate this, perfect FAA was one point for me to get a p8x...

[magog]

Originally posted by XHotKolaX
Runs were done 3 times with the arithmetic mean of the sums taken. Is something a bit off on your system? Not running anything intensive are you?

Maybe it's time for a clean install.
I first have to backup my Divx encoding stuff (including Registry) and then I go for a clean install.

[Enak]

Anyone know distribution channel in the UK to buy from (trade)?

[borat]

ill do the benchmarks tonight,
Che Guevara
If you tell me some scenes in UT2003, operation flashpiont or FS2004 where the origional P faa misses edges ill run mine over the same scenes and see what extra it does and what it misses still.

[Nappe1]

New Parhelia spotted in finnish Verkkokauppa.com

http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=2203

Price 366 Eur (cheapest of all parhelias.)
in stock: 0 items
Delivery time: 1-3 days

And notice that Parhelia AGP4x Retail status in same store is "Loppu" which means "Out of Stock" or "not available anymore". And in this case, it looks like to be latter one, because it does not have price at all anymore.

[Enak]

I can't resist... got to order.

How we overclock these things without using the Matrox app?

[borat]

Originally posted by Enak
I can't resist... got to order.

How we overclock these things without using the Matrox app?

Powerstrip.

[Richh]

Or editing the pinsfile...


Speaking of which, is there any chance you could pull a copy of the P8x's pins Borat? Pretty please?

[borat]

as you asked so very nicely:

Fill: 0 511 0xFF

0 2 0x412E
2 2 0x0200
4 2 0x0609
6 2 0x0893
8 2 0x0002
10 2 0x840A
12 16
28 6 '101'
36 4 0
40 4 0x00000000
44 2 600
46 2 1200
48 2 600
50 2 1200
52 2 50
54 2 400
56 4 600000
60 4 0x00000000
64 2 600
66 2 1600
68 2 600
70 2 1600
72 2 50
74 2 400
76 4 500000
80 4 0x00000000
84 2 600
86 2 1200
88 2 600
90 2 1200
92 2 50
94 2 400
96 4 0
100 4 0x00000000
104 2 600
106 2 1200
108 2 600
110 2 1200
112 2 50
114 2 400
116 4 25175
120 4 0x00000000
124 4 28311
128 4 0x00000000
132 4 0x00054574
136 4 0x0000A0B4
140 4 0xA48A0006
144 4 0x00000242
148 4 0x00000F03
152 4 0x29296464
156 4 0x29290000
160 4 0x00000040
164 4 0x3978C200
168 4 0x80041462
172 4 0x1923297A
176 4 0x00000025
180 4 0x10240902
184 4 0x00040902
188 4 0x00000408
192 4 0x000E607F
196 4 0x55555555
200 4 0x00000000
204 4 0x55555555
208 4 0x01010000
212 4 0x00000000
216 4 0x3978C200
220 4 0x80041462
224 4 0x1923297A
228 4 0x00000025
232 4 0x10240902
236 4 0x00040902
240 4 0x00000408
244 4 0x000E607F
248 4 0x55555555
252 4 0x00000000
256 4 0x55555555
260 4 0x01010000
264 4 0x00000000
268 4 0x3978C200
272 4 0x80041462
276 4 0x1923297A
280 4 0x00000005
284 4 0x10240902
288 4 0x00040902
292 4 0x00000408
296 4 0x000E617F
300 4 0x55555555
304 4 0x00000000
308 4 0x55555555
312 4 0x01010000
316 4 0x00000000
320 4 0x3978C200
324 4 0x80041462
328 4 0x1923297A
332 4 0x00000005
336 4 0x10240902
340 4 0x00040902
344 4 0x00000408
348 4 0x000E617F
352 4 0x55555555
356 4 0x00000000
360 4 0x55555555
364 4 0x01010000
368 4 0x00000000
372 4 0x01F86DF5
376 16 'PH-A8X128'
392 4 0x0A796821
396 4 0x00000000
400 4 0x0000001F
404 4 0x00000000
408 4 0x00000000
412 4 0x08000707
416 4 0x00000000
420 4 0x00000000
424 4 0x00001010
428 4 0xFFFFFFFF
432 4 0xFFFFFFFF
436 4 0xFFFFFFFF
440 4 0xFFFFFFFF
444 4 0xFFFFFFFF
448 4 0xFFFFFFFF
452 4 0xFFFFFFFF
456 4 0xFFFFFFFF
460 4 0xFFFFFFFF
464 4 0xFFFFFFFF
468 4 0xFFFFFFFF
472 4 0xFFFFFFFF
476 4 0xFFFFFFFF
480 4 0xFFFFFFFF
484 4 0xFFFFFFFF
488 4 0xFFFFFFFF
492 4 0xFFFFFFFF
496 4 0xFFFFFFFF
500 4 0xFFFFFFFF
504 4 0xFFFFFFFF
508 1 0xFF
509 1 0xFF
510 1 0xFF

:FileType Parhelia
:PCBInfo 7119-01
:SubSystemVendorID

[Richh]

Thanks fella!

Hmmm, interesting. Are they the standard values?

If so, looks like the clockspeed descriptor has been moved from line 36 to 76, and now has to be halved to produce desired speed.

Looks like I'll need to get hold of one of these cards. Probably a vain hope that the TV encoder quality has been improved as well...

[borat]

yes they are factory set values,

heres the UT2003 benchmarks:
System, barton@2197Mhz, fsb 169Mhz.

P8x@250/300:

1024x768
no faa
139.39
59.42

1024x768 16xfaa
78.61
49.59

P8x@305/392
1024x768 no faa
161.99
60.12

305/392
1024x768 16x faa
100.84
56.66

Hope that helps for comparisons sake, whoever asked about surround gaming i can now run operation flashpoint and unreal comfortably at 3072x768 - with faa and aniso. This was too slow for me with the old P.

[borat]

had a play with it tonight and highest stable values with faa and aniso are 310/396. Not going to bother trying to oc any higher as 315 is completely unstable and memory corrupts at 399.

[Paddy the wak]

Hello,
MY ... PHA8x128 arrived today....

I don't have any benchmarking tools and I'm not sure I understand all the technical stuff here in this thread...
BUT ... as I say ... my PHA8x128 arrived today ... and I've been playing around a bit.... with TH games.

Here's some findings after just a couple of hours this afternoon...

Midnight Club II...
With the 4X ... I used to run it at 3072x768 ... FAA didn't work ... some textures were transparent or semi-transparent... and I had the shadows turned off to help with performance.
With the 8X ... It runs smooth at 3072x768 ... FAA works... the textures are no longer transparent and I can have the shadows turned on !

MB World Racing...
With the 4X ... I used to run it at 3072x768 FAA worked fine but a high view distance would cause the car shadows to be corrupt.
With the 8X ... It runs smooth at 3480x1024 FAA still works fine but the high view distance does not cause the car shadows to be corrupt !
(I've been using a new tool to get this working perfect in Surround... get it here ...http://toca.game-editing.net/)

ToCA Race Driver ...
With the 4X ... I used to run it at 3072x768 ... FAA didn't work ... all the graphics settings were high but not at their highest
With the 8X ... It runs at 3480x1024 FAA now works and all the graphics settings are at their highest !

GTA Vice City ...
With the 4X ... I used to run it at 3072x768 FAA worked fine.
With the 8X ... It runs smooth at 3480x1024 FAA still works fine !

NFSU ...
With the 4X ... I used to run it at 2400x600 FAA worked fine.
With the 8X ... It runs smooth at 3072x768 FAA still works fine !

Painkiller ... FAA didn't work now it does!

CMR4 ... FAA didn't work now it does !


I will play some more tomorrow....

Cheers,
Paddywak

[thop]

Oh well i think we can say this is the chip that the original P should've been, things would've looked much better for matrox then. One can only speculate how fast they fixed all the flaws in the original chip, but my guess is that it was within the first months after P4x was released. So what caused the delay to see actual cards with the P8x?

On a related note: What happened to the HAIG FOR PRESIDENT campaign?