Is Surround Gaming cheating?

[Snake-Eyes]

Originally posted by Beezer


You know, dialup is part of the reason I favored the shock rifle so much. Since I never could tell exactly where my broadband target was, the shock combo had a wider area of effect and worked well for me. I also favored the green sludge gun too for that same reason, but I often got accused by the LPBs of "spamming".

Oh, come off it Beezer. You know you spam too much!

Seriously, even us 'lpbs' resort to the weapons that work best based on our connections (some won't admit it ). When ping gets bumpy, or spikes, weapons like shock combos, flak cannon, rocket spreads, etc. help even out the game a bit.

Oh well, enough about the dial-up vs. cable/dsl bit. I feel guilty enough when playing some of you guys online (because of my connection)..

[Lizzard[MPE]]

oh bring it on.. we dont whine do we

[Beezer]

Originally posted by Snake-Eyes


Oh, come off it Beezer. You know you spam too much!

I've also been known to "snipe" from time to time -- you know you shouldn't, but sometimes you just can't resist.

[WaltC]

Originally posted by {PainCresT}DAn
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I don't realy think that too many people will be using three monitors (especially if you don't have AC and its the middle of summer) and I don't think cheating is the way to go... having every edge?, for what to get your name posted on a website... LOL...

I really think that having three monitors might turn out to be a lot less of an advantage than people might think initially. For one thing, the monitor bezels would be very distracting to me personally, and I would think to others as well. Also, you could well find yourself distracted by something that catches your peripheral vision off to a side but is really irrelevant only to return focus to the center screen just in time to watch yourself being atomized... And of course as you say the cost of using 3 high-quality monitors is a considerable obstacle as well.

[Lizzard[MPE]]

Originally posted by Beezer


I've also been known to "snipe" from time to time -- you know you shouldn't, but sometimes you just can't resist.

hahahahahahhahahhaha SOMETIMES???????????

beez.. lol. u use that damn shock rifle so much ive resorted to using the damn thing tryin to defend myself!!!!!!!! and i hate that thing more than any weapon!!!!! lol

[Greebe]

LOL... unbalanced... unbalanced... did you say unbalanced! You know what I call unbalanced?!

Friends of mine, Patti and Carl. Carl is 6'4" ~375lbs and Patti is a mere 4'10" 90lbs... NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL UNBALANCED!

[Beezer]

You know what's the best? When someone shoots the redeemer at me... and I blow it up in mid flight with the shock combo.

[Wombat]

I like taking it out with the sniper rifle : )

[Marshmallowman]

surround gaming is cheating, and will remain cheating until I have mine

[Snake-Eyes]

Originally posted by WaltC
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Also, you could well find yourself distracted by something that catches your peripheral vision off to a side but is really irrelevant only to return focus to the center screen just in time to watch yourself being atomized...

er, yep. I have this same issue, even with only one monitor (some animated parts of the environment tend to catch my peripheral vision, and I sometimes mistake them for an adversary (UT2003's Curse3 map does this to me, with all the animated stuff going on..)

I can well imagine that with Parhelia I'd find myself running by some passageway, then backtracking just to make sure that there wasn't really anyone there waiting in ambush, instead allowing the guy just up ahead at the next corridor to get me in the back.

[APEXNETHOR]

Naaa its not cheating just a simple advatage in hardware thats all. For instance us gamers that have a Geforce 4 Ti4600 over players with a lesser performing card say like a Geforce 2 GTS, or Matrox G550 card will easily see us Ti4600 users getting in more accurate shots and faster response times in multiplayer games due to the higher amount of FPS. So in my view that is a hardware advantage just like looking at a triple header display in games like Quake 3, or Unreal Tourney.

PS: A good high performance sound card and PC speaker system with 5.1 can also be a great advantage as well.

[WaltC]

Originally posted by APEXNETHOR
Naaa its not cheating just a simple advatage in hardware thats all. For instance us gamers that have a Geforce 4 Ti4600 over players with a lesser performing card say like a Geforce 2 GTS, or Matrox G550 card will easily see us Ti4600 users getting in more accurate shots and faster response times in multiplayer games due to the higher amount of FPS. So in my view that is a hardware advantage just like looking at a triple header display in games like Quake 3, or Unreal Tourney .

I don't see how 200 fps contrasted with 100 fps is any sort of an advantage, actually (I have a GF4 4600 as well). That's why I think sites like Anand's have done a major disservice to the Parhelia. Unfortunately, lots of people will erroneously believe there's some sort of advantage because of reviews like this. Really, frame rate comparisons began at a time when some hardware would provide a playable frame rate, and some would not. Good examples of this were the 3dfx V1 and V2 compared with early nVidia and ATI 3D cards. Most always the 3dfx cards would provide playable frame rates, but the early nVidia and ATI cards would not (although the nVidia cards were a good deal faster than the ATI cards at the time--some of those early ATI cards would give you about 5 fps --literally-- and the nVidia cards 15-20 fps, but the 3dfx cards were 25-40 fps at the time.) Today when most cards will perform in a decent resolution at 50-80 fps and higher in 32 bits, such frame rate comparisons are pretty meaningless, I think. Simply put, an observer playing a game on one system at 100 fps and on another at 200 fps, without access to frame rate counters for either, would be hard pressed to tell the difference.

PS: A good high performance sound card and PC speaker system with 5.1 can also be a great advantage as well. ]

Agreed, now that's a difference that has some meaning I find the Klipsch 5.1's highly recommendable.

[APEXNETHOR]

Originally posted by WaltC
I don't see how 200 fps contrasted with 100 fps is any sort of an advantage, actually (I have a GF4 4600 as well). That's why I think sites like Anand's have done a major disservice to the Parhelia. Unfortunately, lots of people will erroneously believe there's some sort of advantage because of reviews like this. Really, frame rate comparisons began at a time when some hardware would provide a playable frame rate, and some would not. Good examples of this were the 3dfx V1 and V2 compared with early nVidia and ATI 3D cards. Most always the 3dfx cards would provide playable frame rates, but the early nVidia and ATI cards would not (although the nVidia cards were a good deal faster than the ATI cards at the time--some of those early ATI cards would give you about 5 fps --literally-- and the nVidia cards 15-20 fps, but the 3dfx cards were 25-40 fps at the time.) Today when most cards will perform in a decent resolution at 50-80 fps and higher in 32 bits, such frame rate comparisons are pretty meaningless, I think. Simply put, an observer playing a game on one system at 100 fps and on another at 200 fps, without access to frame rate counters for either, would be hard pressed to tell the difference.

Clearly you do not pay alot of FPS (First Person Shooters) genre games I see from your reply to my post. Yes of course FPS matters and acts as a clear advantage to a online gamer my friend and I speak with 10 years experience in FPS gaming and 8+ years in online multiplayer gaming. I have had my share of the past offerings in graphic card technologies such as voodoo 2, Voodoo 3, GF 2 MX, GF 2 GTS, GF 3, and now the GF 4 Ti4600 and yes their has been clearly a pattern of performance upgrades in speed FPS and details through these videocards indefinitely.
Lets say for instance your playing an online game with your FPS say at around between 150fps to 160fps in like a game of Quake 3 against another online player that is getting in anywhere between 75fps to 90fps. You will notice that the player with the 150/160fps is going to get off more faster and consecutive rockets shots and rail shots than the other player will be able too get in on the player with the faster fps as it's a proven fact.

Once again I connot stress this further you the end user must determine what is best suited for your needs whether in PC applications, or in PC gaming. A person that plays games like Diablo 2, and other 2D games doesn't require the polygon pushing power of a Geoforce 4 Ti4600, where as the First Person shooter genre gamer does require the raw power of a Ti4600 for top FPS and poly pushing power.

[Wombat]

Lets say for instance your playing an online game with your FPS say at around between 150fps to 160fps in like a game of Quake 3 against another online player that is getting in anywhere between 75fps to 90fps. You will notice that the player with the 150/160fps is going to get off more faster and consecutive rockets shots and rail shots than the other player will be able too get in on the player with the faster fps as it's a proven fact.

Excuse me? If it's proven, where's the proof?

[APEXNETHOR]

Originally posted by Wombat
Excuse me? If it's proven, where's the proof?

Your excused I know its true as do many gamers out their would tend to also agree with me as I put what you would so easily dismiss as an "FPS theory" into practice daily in online multiplayer events. If you feel you need to view the proof for your self then attend a LAN party with several individuals with different PC set ups, and vidoecards and see the proof for your self buddy its that simple.