Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

[Novdid]

Well he did!!! HAA!!!

[Lizzard[MPE]]

harry potter comes out nov.15 as well

[Rakido]

who is Harry Potter ?


Rakido

[RichL]

Originally posted by Wombat
but in the movie didn't Boromir pick it up when Frodo lost it in the snow? Boromir would have never withstood the temptation.

Didn't he pick it up by the chain it was on, rather than touching the ring itself?
(I'm holding off getting the DVD until I get a proper DVD and home AV setup, which I'm holding off buying until I finish decorating...)

My biggest dislike was giving Merry or Pippin a pronounced OIrish accent. My memory might be a bit rusty, but I'm sure there were never any Leprechauns in the LOTR books.

[Drizzt]

I can't wait for the DVD and the new film, too.

But, David Eddings is a far better author.

[Gurm]

Drizzt,

I love Eddings to death. He's perhaps my favorite storyteller of all time. However, two things need pointing out:

1. He's only HALF an author. Lee did half the work - always has.
2. He's no Tolkien.

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I too was not particularly fond of the hobbits being made out to be helpless. However, if Jackson had included all the intrigue that led up to their escape from the Shire to Bree, he would have spent 4-5 hours JUST IN HOBBITON. I mean honestly.

Scale was a bit off, too. I mean, from the time that Gandalf rides off saying "keep it secret, keep it safe" until the time that he shows back up was... wait for it... SEVENTEEN YEARS. That's a long friggin' time. The movie makes it out to be like a couple weeks.

As for the Gandalf/Saruman bitchfight... we're really not sure what went down there. Jackson pulled a LOT from the histories of Middle Earth as well as the Silmarillion. As far as I know, every one of those sources simply says that they "contended with each other" or "fought with one another". Gandalf says that Saruman imprisoned him forcibly. *shrug* one can only assume that they had a wizard fight of some kind, no?

Actually, in truth I always presumed that Saruman had ordered his orcs to lock Gandalf on top of the tower. But that's just me.

As for the accents, I always thought the Hobbits would have very provincial accents... but not necessarily DIFFERENT ones.

- Gurm

[Wombat]

The accents were fine by me. A lot of that kind of thing Tolkien did in his role as "storyteller." In the appendices of LoTR he mentions how he changed all the names, etc.

[TdB]

well, I never read silmarilion myself, so you could be right, I just understood the book like, that neither Saruman or Gandalf openly fought eachother, because they both hoped they could talk some sense into the other.
I think Saruman really wanted Gandalf by his site(or at least as a servant)in his battle for world domination, and Gandafl hoped he could show saruman back to the right path. figthing eachother like that, would make them enemies for life, and I don´t think neither one of them wanted that.

SPOILER:
even in "the two towers" saruman still tries to talk Gandalf into joining him(of course it could out of pure desparation, but i don´t think thats the only reason), I don´t think he would have done that if they really fought like that, Saruman isn´t the forgiving type.

I think their first disagreement went relatively peacefully, with sarumans orcs escorting Gandalf to the top of his tower.
I mean what other choices did Gandalf have: fight Saruman AND his entire orc-army, all by himself? Gandalf knew he couldn´t win that fight

[KRSESQ]

Does this mean Ralph Bakshee isn't gonna finish his animated version?

Kevin

[Rakido]

nope, he's too busy selling his LotR-paintings on ebay


Rakido

[Drizzt]

Originally posted by KRSESQ
Does this mean Ralph Bakshee isn't gonna finish his animated version?

So i'm not the only one who thinks that the Bakshi version is the best one?

(Well, to be honest we are at last two thinking so: me and Peter Jackson, who has copied a lot from Bakshi work...)

[Drizzt]

Speaking about things that have left me disappointed in the Jackson film:

1) Moria part is really really poor.
2) The entire part about Aragorn sword...he has really messed up a lot it, and even without a reason!!

[Drizzt]

Originally posted by Gurm
Drizzt,

I love Eddings to death. He's perhaps my favorite storyteller of all time. However, two things need pointing out:

1. He's only HALF an author. Lee did half the work - always has.
2. He's no Tolkien.

- Gurm

I know that Lee did half the work, and I thinks that in some cases she can have done more than half
And, no, Eddings is not Tolkien. He's far better


Gurm, what's you're favorite character?

[Gurm]

Yeah, the thing with Aragorn's sword is REALLY bugging me. But like I said, there was a quote from the calendar that said "The skill of the elves has reforged it, but only you can wield it!" that was NOT in the books, and therefore may have been cut from the movie. Of course he's not carrying it on Caradhras (where we get a good look at his sword). Maybe it's in his backpack. He does seem to have two swords at a couple points... one on his back and one on his belt.

- Gurm

[Drizzt]

And, just to add another post, the Bakshi film is been not the only "source of inspiration" for Jackson