Circumcision

[ALBPM]

And I thought it wasn't Kosher unless it was all BEEF!!!

OK, just shut up Paul

[Admiral]

Originally posted by Wombat
No, not really. Saliva isn't a hospitable place for HIV. It's very, very difficult to infect someone from your mouth.

Was thinking more the other way around and from a woman's perspective.
Also wanted to be sarcastic @Doc M, anal was something he could've left out

[Umfriend]

Another episode in the anals of MURC...
Umf

edit: or is "anals" not English?.....

[Dr Mordrid]

Umfriend: annals (annals = archives)....not anals

Also: leaving out the close relationship between anal sex, HIV and other STD infections would have bee an incomplete answer.

Originally posted by Wombat
No, not really. Saliva isn't a hospitable place for HIV. It's very, very difficult to infect someone from your mouth.

Absolutely correct and proven in practice by the fact that HIV infection from lesbian to lesbian is almost unheard of absent other sexual practices involving the anal canal.

Dr. Mordrid

[Wombat]

For a while the main anti-AIDs medical research was in trying to replicate these properties of saliva, but they weren't having very much luck. The cell-receptor approach seems to be having more luck lately though.

[UtwigMU]

I remember this Bosnian guy from the army who said: Us muslims have cabrio pensus.

IMO It's no big deal wether you are circumcized or not, but I'd leave that dilema to my kids if I was in such position.

[mutz]

...nobody asked me if I wanted to be circumcised or not, but later on a number of girls asked me if I was Jewish or not. I told them no, I'm American, which got me some puzzled looks...

[dave m]

interesting debate

Warning : Personal information here

My dad was, because that was what they did in 1930's Britain.

I wasn't because my parent's felt it was unnessary in a hygienic society.

My twin brother had no problems with his, mine was a problem, because it wouldn't, well, peel back. A friendly specialist doctor forced it back when I was around 7 years old maybe less. I couldn't pass water without excruiating pain for a week after.

Since then I have rather protective of it

But back to the topic, if you wash inside it, surely it's not a problem?

Dave

Edit: no comment on circumscision for cultural or religious reasons was implied anywhere here

[Gurm]

Dave,

That's just the thing - as your case demonstrates you CAN'T wash inside it in some cases. Now what if you hadn't seen the specialist until much later on? Let's say you got a bona-fide erection all by your lonesome upon turning the ripe old age of whatever it was when you got your first erection...

OUCH. It would tear. Causing BIG problems.

- Gurm

[Liquid_Memory]

Here is the biblical references to circumcision.

Exodus 4:26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband [thou art], because of the circumcision.

John 7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.

John 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?

Acts 7:8 And he gave him the covenant of circumcision: and so [Abraham] begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day; and Isaac [begat] Jacob; and Jacob [begat] the twelve patriarchs.

Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 11:2 And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him,

Romans 2:25 For {circumcision} verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy {circumcision} is made uncircumcision.

Romans 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

Romans 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

Romans 2:29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.

Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit [is there] of circumcision?

Romans 3:30 Seeing [it is] one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

There is a total of 32 in all, but most of them are pretty neutral to circumcision, none of the scriptures really state that you have to become circumcized.

I'll post the rest if you want me to.

[Gurm]

Yeah, but then again you're quoting the new testament - hardly brimming over with Jewish thought.

- Gurm

[Joel]

I'll post the rest if you want me to.

Actually I would apreciate it if you didn't take anymore scriptures out of context.

Joel

[Liquid_Memory]

This is true, there isn't much reference in the old testament. Now if I elaborate and go to circumcise then it is mostly in the old testament and not in the new.

Genesis 17:11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

Deuteronomy 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Deuteronomy 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

Joshua 5:2 At that time the LORD said unto Joshua, Make thee sharp knives, and circumcise again the children of Israel the second time.

Joshua 5:4 And this [is] the cause why Joshua did circumcise: All the people that came out of Egypt, [that were] males, [even] all the men of war, died in the wilderness by the way, after they came out of Egypt.

Jeremiah 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench [it], because of the evil of your doings.

Luke 1:59 And it came to pass, that on the eighth day they came to circumcise the child; and they called him Zacharias, after the name of his father.

John 7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.

Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command [them] to keep the law of Moses.

Acts 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise [their] children, neither to walk after the customs.

[Jessterw]

I think I remember this debate back in... when was it... junior high? In the boy's locker room I believe.

To get to the point, I'm not and I rather like it that way. Made masturbation as a teen rather enjoyable and it seems to make my wife very pleased. Never had any problems with it at all... I keep it clean (as I would even if I was) and I always make sure it is not in the path of the ominous zipper

I'm not even going to get into the religious debate over this, it's pointless and I really don't think God gives a shit. On a side note, quoting religious scriptures just shows a lack of ability to think on your own.

[Umfriend]

LM, how about quotes on anal penetration, would you pls? Both testaments if it isn't too much work.
Umf