World according to America

[Admiral]

Originally posted by Greebe
edit: link ws fuxored when quoted. Now fixed

That guy seems to have a fetishist attraction for the CTL-DEL-ALT key combo
(and was a total ass)

[Greebe]

One of the reasons I made the MURC my home is because this was one of the very few places where clear concise information could be found without having to rifle through a pile crap posts to find the answers. You know, as opposed to how other forums are tricked out in inaccurate youthful l33t ghettotalk...

In an attempt to maintain this standard it's easily see how all that's neccessary at times to uphold this standard can be seen as being harsh towards mini's (and even other Murcers). But let me assure you that this is only to in short order, maintain the status quo... what defines this site from the others, ie does the world honestly need yet another [H]forum?

BTW I do have the tendency of getting a bit out of hand at times, and am well aware of it (and working on it , but it's a rather thankless position and get our heads bitten off when we either don't behave this way or even when we do exercise restraint.

the old addage applies, you can't please all people all the time

[Admiral]

Originally posted by Greebe
One of the reasons I made the MURC my home is because this was one of the very few places where clear concise information could be found without having to rifle through a pile crap posts to find the answers. You know, as opposed to how other forums are tricked out in inaccurate youthful l33t ghettotalk...

In an attempt to maintain this standard it's easily see how all that's neccessary at times to uphold this standard can be seen as being harsh towards mini's (and even other Murcers). But let me assure you that this is only to in short order, maintain the status quo... what defines this site from the others, ie does the world honestly need yet another [H]forum?

BTW I do have the tendency of getting a bit out of hand at times, and am well aware of it (and working on it , but it's a rather thankless position and get our heads bitten off when we either don't behave this way or even when we do exercise restraint.

the old addage applies, you can't please all people all the time

I can understand that.
And though we might not show it too often, we do apreciate the work you guys do in order to keep the forums functional

[thop]

while there are some disagreements (naturally) on how things get handled from times to times, i'm overall very happy about out our moderators team

[Jammrock]

From GENP
Er, ain't the UK a constitutional monarchy? I know it means very little, but I am pretty sure that we are not a republic.

In which case you would have a post-Ceasar based republic, though from what I understand, the monarch has little to zero power these days. The fact that the governement is representative based makes it a Republic.

From Doc
Actually the US is a "Constitutionally Limited Republic".

Which is why I said based off of the pre-Ceaser Roman Republic

From 3dfx
Oh what a great Military the USA has, well if I remember rightly the main war you fought alone you lost ..hehe
Little Britain had an EMPIRE!

If I remember correctly, the pathetic US military beat the British Empire to get their freedom. We call it the Revolutionary War. We have fought many wars by ourselves, besides Viet Nam (which is what I assume you are talking about), and won. Had you known your US history you would have known about the Revolutionary war...the Spanish-American War...The War of 1812 (though you almost got us there)...and hell, we really kicked the crap out of ourselves in the Civil War.

And if memory serves me correctly, we helped bail out the British Empire on two occations in the 1900's...something called World War I and II. And well, we don't take 100 years to fight a war, only to lose to the French

Jammrock

[Greebe]

From 3dfx
Oh what a great Military the USA has, well if I remember rightly the main war you fought alone you lost ..hehe
Little Britain had an EMPIRE!

Not to pick on mini's, but that comment shows no sense of self restraint, nor any respect for those who died for their nation in such trying times

[GNEP]

http://www.poliedu.net/CUNAPolSci201PartThreeA.shtml

The "constitutional" bit in "constitutional monarchy" is what separates it from the type of monarchy that you are thinking of, Jammrock. The Queen notionally (although not really in practice) still has a fair degree of power. The UK is not a republic - that is why in this country the people who want to get rid of the "monarchy" as it stands are known as republicans.

Personally, I don't really give a monkey's either way

[3dfx]

When it comes to World War 2 well I agree that America did a lot to try an prevent it and they did help us start the Union between the various European countries and perhaps it was a mistake not involving Germany at first as they were going to grieve because of it. Though the main cause for not inviting them in was France as they despised Germany after WW I or to put it another way feared them. Secondly Even though America had done this they made a fatal mistake by not getting involved and making sure it worked, and stayed nut real and the only reason you got involved was Pearl Harbor. This is the main reason that as soon as the Second World War ended we quickly invested as much money as possible into the German Economy. This was to make sure it worked and therefore we didn't get a re occurrence of after WW I were the German economy collapsed and allowed groups like Fascism and communism to get involved and abolish democracy. America helped and you are an ally and that is the important thing IMO as if we are not against each other we are friends and Greebe I' am grateful for all the sacrifices everyone made in that trying time or we probably wouldn't be here. Though what you have to remember is that it is not like America had a choice. If they didn't get involved and Hitler won Europe, then that would be the end ! for America and Hitler would become the next Alexander the Great ! and rule the world. Which may have happened if there wasn't a Pearl Harbour.
I could have gone into a lot of more detail but you get the idea, if you would like a discussion then give me your msn or icq

[Dr Mordrid]

Originally posted by Wombat
Unfortunately, the federal government takes whatever powers it wants. See the DEA seizures of legal (according to California) marijuana - grown in Cali, given away for free, IN STATE (no interstate anything), and the DEA still comes in and seizes everything.

The problem with your logic is that drug policy is a Federal authority because it involves interstate commerce as defined in the 10th Amendment.

Since there are commercial drugs that contain cannabinols, and these are shipped in interstate commerce, this means marijuana falls under the Federal statutes as enforced by the FDA and DEA.

This coverage has been upheld in the Supreme Court many times and those decisions specifically state that the States (or localities) have no authority to de-regulate them.

Try again

Dr. Mordrid

[Greebe]

Not if the product doesn't travel outside of state lines Doc

A crop of this kind raised in California, by Californians, for Californians doesn't apply. Now I realise this is a BIG pill for those do good selfrighteous pompus twits in DC to comprehend, but is none the less wrong for their actions... and dispite what the Supreme court claims, they're not always right. After decades of brainwashing themselves and the general population in general as to it being a narcotic (yes I do realise they chaged it's status... rather unethically I might add) which it most certainly is not is something that they have an even harder time turning around because it would be a blow to their cause due to the deception (not to mention their egos) and limit Big Brothers reach into the American wallet let alone personal privacy violations.

BTW what I'm saying doesn't apply to any other drug.

[Dr Mordrid]

Originally posted by 3dfx
Oh what a great Military the USA has, well if I remember rightly the main war you fought alone you lost ..hehe
Little Britain had an EMPIRE!

Your lack of historical knowledge is very amusing. You are, of course, referring to VietNam. In point of fact the US was not alone in fighting the VietNam war, as anyone who has read or lived that history could tell you. Several other nations also provided logistical and basing support.

Regular Australian forces (land, sea and air) as well as many Canadian's serving in the US military also fought there. In fact one Canadian won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Vietnam (one of 40 who have done so in history). Regular Canadian Army forces also served in VietNam as part of the ICC (International Control Commission).

As for "losing" the war, you should read the autobiographies written by North VietNam's military commanders. They all say that if it weren't for the politicians slowing down the allies after the Tet Offensive (in which the North Vietnam forces got hammered bigtime) the US would have won in a walk.

Yup, it was only when the McGovernites and their ilk gained the political advantage that the military was restrained to the point of surrender; literally at the brink of victory.

Some would call them traitors.

Dr. Mordrid

[Jammrock]

3dfx...you completely missed the point. We were talking military might, not economics.

Jammrock

[3dfx]

No but it was America against Vietnam and therefore it didn't really affect anyone else apart from those parties. Those who did get involved didn't have to. Politician's or not you still Lost which I find amusing.

[Greebe]

Like this "War on drugs" which is a joke (fleecing if you ask me)

See the movie Clear and present danger...

at the beginning of the flik the ambassadors Yacht was blown up.. he and his family was killed (by the US Goverment "Assinated")... was a fact, twas one of Reagans buddies who was on the take with the Columbian cartel whom he had just screwed over royally in one of his dealings were the cause for this "WoD"

Kinda like these commercials... TheAntiDrug... like the one showing some poor family (from Columbia???) who was murdered by a cartel... On the face of it all appears to be very bad, but if we look under these do gooders message, these people were most likely informants for the DEA. Being as such shouldn't be considered innocent victims standing on the side of the road when killed, but essentially agents of the US goverment and thus were treated as such. Interesting how things are percieved when certain facts are omited wouldn't you say?

[Dogbert]

I can think of quite a few British bloopers over the years.

I must also add one little something: Anyone can talk strategy. Strategy is nothing but brain. War on the other hand is a whole different opera. I was in the army for 3 years of my life and I'm still doing reserves. I'd never argue about the battlefield with my friends or my father who have experienced it at first hand.
Ever held and fired a gun ? Good for you ! It's quite different firing a gun even with the commander standing above your head and shouting than when the "target" is firing back at you...

Another problem. Many people confuse losing a battle with losing a war. The big fat lady has yet to sing, but for now, the communism is on the losing side. So the U.S (as the French before them) have lost the battle, but in the end, they certainly didn't lose *the* war.