World according to America

[3dfx]

lol ... I think that is just a little too harsh and as Britain is a Democratic State it is VERY!!! very unlikely as ppl wouldn’t stand for it. Oh yeah and just to make this valid point America did not devise Democracy as that was a British invention, before America even existed .. hehe On top of that we have more freedom as you have your constitutional rights which are a nightmare to change. So ppl can walk around with weapons legally, where the Uk has Laws that can easily be changed and modified to suit us. So we clearly have a much more effective Democratic state

[Greebe]

forcing manditory military still would do nothing for the youths of 3dfx's age

[K6-III]

Originally posted by 3dfx
lol ... I think that is just a little too harsh and as Britain is a Democratic State it is VERY!!! very unlikely as ppl wouldn’t stand for it. Oh yeah and just to make this valid point America did not devise Democracy as that was a British invention, before America even existed .. hehe On top of that we have more freedom as you have your constitutional rights which are a nightmare to change. So ppl can walk around with weapons legally, where the Uk has Laws that can easily be changed and modified to suit us. So we clearly have a much more effective Democratic state

Demoncracy is a greek invention...

[Greebe]

Oh yeah and just to make this valid point America did not devise Democracy as that was a British invention, before America even existed .. hehe

Learn your history

On top of that we have more freedom as you have your constitutional rights which are a nightmare to change.

Our constitutional rights have served us very well. Why change what works???

So ppl can walk around with weapons legally, where the Uk has Laws that can easily be changed and modified to suit us.

pfffff you don't even know the difference between sensationalized media (news) hype and the real issues involved. The US was a completely different senerio as to how it came into being and thus different laws and rules to govern by. Not better per se, just different. Please learn the difference

So we clearly have a much more effective Democratic state

Cough, see above

[Dr Mordrid]

Originally posted by goldstein
Yeah, the arguments unfortunately are symptomatic of built-in prejudices. My opinion has been that the US would have less problems with "youth" if like in many European countries there was mandatory military service for at least 12 months. They would at least learn how to get of bed on time (how's that for a stereotype).

AMEN!!!!

Dr. Mordrid

[GNEP]

Originally posted by Greebe
Not better per se, just different.

And Amen to that!

I have yet to see the "perfect" system for building/governing society. And the selfish-pragmatist in me sqashes the idealist - so I'm happy enough to roll with what we've got, and let others roll with what they've got. I'm only a small fish you see.

[cjolley]

re: mandatory military service

Originally posted by Dr Mordrid
AMEN!!!!

Dr. Mordrid

I'm not so sure.
Our military is so good now, it might not be a good idea to go back to conscription.

How about "universal mandatory civilian service" of some sort?

chuck

PS If the draft had been truly universal, Viet Nam would never have happend the way it did because the opposition would have solidified much earlier.

[RichL]

Originally posted by goldstein
"Greebe:and this comes out of the mouth of a worldy 16 year old"

Greebe. do you think it is mature to counter his argument by making fun of his age; or would it be more effective if you attacked his argument?

Well it is a change from "You're only a mini-Murcer and/or I have lots more posts than you" that has passed for a riposte from more than one SuperMurcer in the past here.

[Greebe]

Do me a flavor Rich and link to those quotes.

[Dr Mordrid]

Originally posted by cjolley
re: mandatory military service


I'm not so sure.
Our military is so good now, it might not be a good idea to go back to conscription.

How about "universal mandatory civilian service" of some sort?

chuck

PS If the draft had been truly universal, Viet Nam would never have happend the way it did because the opposition would have solidified much earlier.

That would work too. Anything to get them off their lazy arses and learning that the world does not revolve around them and they have one or two responsibilites.

Dr. Mordrid

[cjolley]

Originally posted by Dr Mordrid
That would work too. Anything to get them off their lazy arses and learning that the world does not revolve around them and they have one or two responsibilites.

Dr. Mordrid

Watch out Doc, you are in danger of slipping into Geezer Mode there.
chuck

PS Don't lose all hope, all of my young relatives are hard working, good kids.

[Greebe]

Watch out Doc, you are in danger of slipping into Geezer Mode there.

snickers

[Dr Mordrid]

If "Geezer mode" means that I think a lot of young people need a swift kick in the behind; guilty as charged.

Dr. Mordrid

[RichL]

Originally posted by Greebe
Do me a flavor Rich and link to those quotes.

Why, feeling guilty?

I'll have dig through the search function tommorow.

[Greebe]

Why, feeling guilty?

Hardly

I'll have dig through the search function tommorow.

Please do