What exactly is Matrox up to .... get the <facts>

[mute]

http://www.matrox.com/mga/dev_relati...vents/home.cfm

check this out , why would matrox go to the game dev conf , and e3 in 2002 , surely not to show off their existing cards

press release in march and production this summer ?

[mdhome]

I hope that it appears before next summer. That would make it 3 years between the introduction of the G400 and its replacement.

Unam, I cant see why Matrox wouldnt want to release a high end card. What possible reason could they want for becoming 2nd best?


regards MD

[efty]

Financial

How do u guys know that Matrox has the financial ability to release a new card?

It seems 2 years without a new card and the lose of so many oem clients has "killed" matrox.

Some outside financial boost would be good right now, but would do that at this time.

I still have a Marvel G200. I am totally satisfied with this card despite the win2k mjepg problems. I have seen many cards.. Nvidia, 3dfx all of them do not have the crispness of my g200.

What i want from matrox is another card that will last me another 4 years

[Terrafin]

I agree with Unam...

I myself have had a G400MAX for a while now (hehe got suckered in with the bump mapping feature and 2D excellence) and although i love the card and only play games on a regular basis id still like to know my v/card has the power to do whatever...

i was planning to buy the ati 8500 but the drivers held me back and i bought a toshiba satellite 3000 series instead for work. and i have to tell you the geforce2go in it is faster than my max! and as Nvidia's latest mobile solution - the NV17M, is comming out it just really shows how far matrox is falling behind in the 3D market area... although i wish they would use there chips in the mobile market... lets just hope when or IF they do come up with something that it can also be intergrated into laptops and really try to span there creative ideas into all areas of the computer market... maybe there having problems shrinking the die size? who knows...

[Unam]

mdhome

My thought here was Matrox has completed a market analysis and discovered that being king of the hill as far as 3d speed is concerned doesn't pay...

If you are already acknowledged as the best in 2D (where most everybody works) and you have passable 3D, where is the return in being the fastest on both sides? If you can make your margin at current levels...

Ugly thoughts, but I thought it may spark some comment!

eftychios

I don't have access to Matrox's books (given that they have no shareholders - nobody else does either!) but if they can release the last two pieces of hardware (450 & 550) then they have the resources to release something worth while.

My two cents worth...

[Kruzin]

Or it could be that M has lost some talented engineers over the last year, so development of their latest technology has taken longer to develop than originally anticipated...


Could be that when this new mystery chip comes out, it will rattle the graphics industry.

Or, could be a G550.5 with bodycasting

Hmmmm.....

[KngtRider]

yes i know nvidia 2d is decent, but you (all) know what i mean......

well the g400 is more advaned than the voodoo3 series when it comes to future proofing and general feature set

(do not compare glide and gl i am talking on general features and d2d/d3d)

matrox does have resources to make new designs to make a design with world first features (mill1, g200, g400 etc etc etc etc)
is not easy

they will release a new card, but the question is when

nvidia became bigger when tnt2 came out and their dets program ramped up.

recall nvidia was nothing once, and matrox was leagues ahead

matrox is VERY close with MS on graphics matters and hw support
new part would be a killer part, but timing, target market and cost will be killler

remeber voodoo5 ?.........

[Unam]

Could be that we will all be very old before big M releases that new chip Kruzin.

I remember the Voodoo 5 very well KngtRider. I remember when 3dfx was king of the 3D, but I also remember when Matrox was the best in the video card industry. If my failing memory serves me correctly that was a long time ago! Still have that Mill II in a box some where - could be that is where my beloved G400 will end up as well...

[mdhome]

Unam
I'm not so sure. They may still make the same amount of money on a card that costs £100 as one that costs £200 but there is a knock on effect from having one of the fastest 3d cards on the planet. Its called visibility and is something that makes people (oems) sit up take notice of you. A cut down version of their next gen could be the product that is being sold in every oem pc.

Another ugly thought. With their excellent 2d and poor 3d, Matrox current offerings are unbalanced.


regards MD

[Unam]

Points well taken MD, my comment would be you would actually have to release something that catches an OEM's attention for that to work... we have not seen anything like that from Matrox in a long time.

[IcedEarth]

Matrox will have to come up with something soon because apparently, the Geforce 3 Ti500 that Leadtek has released, has superior 2D image quality. And that's the main reason I've stuck to Matrox all this time; 2D image quality.
At www.firingsquad.com they've tested a Ti500 from Leadtek and they say it's better than Matrox image quality.....

[Amiga Blitter]

2d Image Quality

The Canopus Geforce3 also have a super 2d image quality. The canopus uses very high quality output filters.
The Elsa Geforce3 have a good 2d image quality.

[windigo]

mmmm canopus havent heard that name in awhile
bought a voodoo from them long time ago to go with my
mystique220(still going strong in my work machine btw)

[JF_Aidan_Pryde]

..bodycasting?

PUAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHH--## .. sorry.

[RedRed]

Jade Falcon:

This body casting/arse casting could have potential with the 'men in dirty coats'!!!!










errr.... I wouldnt, buy one....... honnest (but I wonder if it was spanned across 2 monitors........ )

dual body casting ohhhhherrrrrr!


RedRed