Parhelia!!!

[a13antichrist]

Originally posted by Ant
Children if you can't all play together nicely I'll send you all home

I dare you to try it. For me alone it would cost you about $2k..

[Helevitia]

nVidia did it and now ATi are doing it but Matrox decided not to.

Suddenly this statement popped into my head the other day and I thought "Mobile Chip!". Matrox already had integrated chips for a while with OEM stuff. Just a thought though....

Dave

[a13antichrist]

Funny you should mention that because I posted a thread on that very idea on the Matrox board just a week or so ago. Their response was they had no plans to enter that market.

I think a mobile G400 would absolutely kick arse.. but oh well.

[TdB]

crazy thought...

nVidia did it and now ATi are doing it but Matrox decided not to.

a motherboard???

wasn´t fusion rumored to be a multichip solution, could be a whole motherboard.

[roadie]

nVidia did it and now ATi are doing it but Matrox decided not to.

i am pretty sure this is to do with motherboards- nvidia has the nforce, ati are just about to release something similar, and matrox have not

[PXR5]

hmmmm
and what about SIS?

preview here http://www.virescentnetworks.com/new...s_graphics.htm
of their new Xabre series, looks like they're going after ATI & Nvidia's top end cards.
---e

[Greebe]

The only thing SIS could do with those is possibly take a bite out of ATi and nV's lowend market share

[PXR5]

ahh
you've seen one of these, then?

---e

[DGhost]

Originally posted by PXR5
ahh
you've seen one of these, then?

---e

eh, its just another SiS chipset... not hard to figure out that (in typical SiS fashion) its performance is either gonna be horrible to medium and its drivers and overall compatability are gonna be horrible too...

[PXR5]

ohhh
perhaps,...
but then again, take the above post and swap "SIS" for "Matrox", and you have an attitude I see alot on other boards. Apparently many folks never got over the G200 OpenGL thing.

I don't know, that's for sure.
Interesting Times...

---e

[Marshmallowman]

yeah its a bit of a pity, the g200 almost doubled perfomance wise going from the opengl (d3d wrapper) to full opengl drivers.

It was a pain to start, but waiting for those little incremental performance jumps got quite addictive after a while....or am i a masochist?

sis are making suprisingly good motherboards now...reliable cheap and fast,,,and their latest graphics chip is good(for an embeded chip)

[DGhost]

SiS has always made cheap, semi reliable products. Between compaq and hp there are a lot of computers out there with sis chipsets. and then you have the fact that they have been the favorite of many oems trying to sell cheap boards and systems.

the major problems that i have always see with SiS products is that they work reasonably well in most situations, but they have major problems that don't get fixed. ALi and SiS both said their K6-2 stuff would take up to a 550, but most motherboards rarely ran stable above 450, maybe 500. their IDE controllers were not as overall compatable as VIA or Intel's, their USB is buggy and doesn't work with certain devices, their AGP implementation is picky about what they use, they have issues with certain memory or lots of memory. combine it with the previously relatively low performance of the chipset, its not something i really like...

the graphics cards are just cheap cards with the typical problems related to crappy drivers...

granted, i have seen them work well in several systems. Laptops in particular i have seen everything but the graphics work well in. Compaqs and HP's both work relatively well, as long as you don't expand it or change the original configuration. people usually start encountering problems when they have to get into changing the configuration.

the G200.. i never played with one... its a shame too... the funny thing about matrox is that not enough people complain about them to be well known =P

[Dr Mordrid]

SiS has moved way up with their new 735/745 chipsets. Those puppies are quite good.

Dr. Mordrid

[Nappe1]

Originally posted by GT98


Nappe1,

I've been hearing rumors since last Christmas time that Bitboys did have a Video card but the chances of it getting out to production where scuttled do to problems with the RAM manufacture etc...though they did have a couple of "Press" Release boards that got out to different reviewers etc...so the question is why aren't they letting the reviewers publish reviews of the board just to disprove that they are nothing but Vaporware?

Scott

well, those cards haven't reached all the reviewers yet. So that's unfinished business so far.

afaik, there will be some reviews based on Avalanche reference card(s). But only Bitboys knows when. After last december I haven't heard much, but looks like they aren't really horying with that, because they don't want create extra hype before their next gen (chip after Avalanche) is ready enough. (If reviews would be released today, time between that and announcement of next chip would be too long and ppl would start talking about "how bitboys can only deliver press samples, but not real products". So, they are trying to get rid of Vapourware stamp in correct way.)

anyways, when talking about cards coming to shops, Matrox is much more closer and I am going to buy it. afaik, there is full time for matrox card, though I have generally 1 year gfx card cycle .

And let's see if this message gets lost from here too:

Matrox Parhelia's performance will be generally only 15% behind Avalanche and in some cases it will surpass it with great marigin. technically these cards will differ a lot (so no tech licensing. just pure competion) , but in general performance, both would leave all the competitors behind.

[tenebrus]

info or hoax?

considering the date of the news and some of the content this is probably just april's fools news, but still...

http://www.hardware.fr/news/lire/01-04-2002/#4701

btw, it's in french.