Parhelia!!!

[Gurm]

How is that the same way that the boys at BitBoys (Yo! Adrian!) feel?

If the guys at rendition are actually making products, that puts them LIGHTYEARS ahead of bitboys, doesn't it?

- Gurm

[TdB]

afaik bitboys DID produce working hardware once a long time ago, in the voodoo1 era. it was called parymid3d, and iirc tim sweeny (programmer at epic megagames) had one, he wasn´t that impressed though.

[Nappe1]

okay, this is one of things that I really would have my own word to say but I'll drop it.

EDIT: naah... I have to say something. I can't just stand and watch...

but I still want to remember that nowadays Bitboys and Bitboys back then has only 4 same workers so much has changed.

and besides, that chip was Tritech's BB designed it but it was Tritech's. And so was the Bankcrupty (caused by 30 million losed Audio side patent lawsuit.) which destroyed toally whole Pyramid3D project two weeks before production line was starting.

and also John Carmack as many others have had Pyramid3D samples. they were delivered very widely.

Also, in dev boards there was huge differencies between each revs. first ones were running on 60Mhz and the production model was running on 100Mhz so with two pipes, it causes very big drop to performance if it runs on lower clocks.

Also, Pyramid3D was Microprogrammable so it was actually capable doing huge amoount of things. And one of the it's (for PROs back then ...) finest abilities was Displacement Mapping. it run slowly (only few FPS.) it but still faster than any software implementation back then.

For the gamers it would have offered DX6 Bump Mapping (Environemtal Bump Mapping might sound more familiar here. ) and Multi Texturing.

before the Tritech fall down Bitboys got Env Bump Mapping copyright and only few months after that Matrox Licensed Env. Bump Mapping tech from Bitboys. few months later, Microsoft licensed and announced DX6 Bump Mapping support. month after that Tritech found it's grave and Bitboys got only EMBM from 3 years hard work.

after that begin the time fo Glaze for them and they made many mistakes during that time and when Glaze got finished, it never made to market because of reasons that I am not allowed to talk. After that they took Glaze as starting point and started to develop next chip, which was finished on last christmas. Again, they got manufacturing problems, but still they aren't giving up. Next gen is in the works and even this chip which was finished on last christmas, will be seen on press tests.

I don't know how many times I have wrote this but I'll still hope that this will clarify some things. I understand very well if somebody (or anybody) doesn't believe that Bitboys would be able to deliver something, but when you bash ppl, base it on the facts. otherwise you aren't better than nVidiots nor fanATIcs.

At least they developed EMBM for us, so I think thats a something.

[TdB]

well, they can´t be unlucky forever, so who knows, maybe we will hear from them in the future. but for now, im betting on matrox.

heres a picture of the pyramid3d:

[GT98]

Originally posted by Nappe1
after that begin the time fo Glaze for them and they made many mistakes during that time and when Glaze got finished, it never made to market because of reasons that I am not allowed to talk. After that they took Glaze as starting point and started to develop next chip, which was finished on last christmas. Again, they got manufacturing problems, but still they aren't giving up. Next gen is in the works and even this chip which was finished on last christmas, will be seen on press tests.

Nappe1,

I've been hearing rumors since last Christmas time that Bitboys did have a Video card but the chances of it getting out to production where scuttled do to problems with the RAM manufacture etc...though they did have a couple of "Press" Release boards that got out to different reviewers etc...so the question is why aren't they letting the reviewers publish reviews of the board just to disprove that they are nothing but Vaporware?

Scott

[TheLostSwede]

It's going to arrive sooner than you think...

Well, I had a phone call from Matrox today....
Inviting me to the Press Launch of a new product...
They can't say what it is, nor much else...
But it'll happend very soon...
Sadly I can't attend the Press Launch....

/TheLostSwede

[a13antichrist]

Re: It's going to arrive sooner than you think...

Originally posted by TheLostSwede
Well, I had a phone call from Matrox today....
Inviting me to the Press Launch of a new product...

Why?

[TdB]

when?

when was that press launch supposed to be??

[cjolley]

Re: Re: It's going to arrive sooner than you think...

Originally posted by a13antichrist


Why?

Hell with why....

WHEN?

chuck

[TheLostSwede]

Well... I work for a computer magazine... enough said...
Which means I get invited for these things....
I'm sure Ant knows when, but can't tell you...
It's April time anyhow...

/TheLostSwede

[cjolley]

Oh great.
That would make it (drum roll)
SOON™
chuck

PS Gee, I've never hear that before

[Parhelia Pro256]

Fire!

[TheLostSwede]

This is silly...
Come on people...
I can't say when...
And I don't know when the product will officially launch...
But I know the press launch is in April for sure...
And according to what I tried to wrestle out of the local PR person I might get my hands on hardware in June... ish...
But who knows...
But I think Matrox might just amaze the lot of us...

/TheLostSwede

And the twat above should grow up and get a life...

[Wombat]

I don't see any twats here, except maybe that guy above me.

[Ant]

Children if you can't all play together nicely I'll send you all home