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  • #46
    Hi all,

    a few weeks ago, just before the Parhelia was annonced and before the first reviews appeared, I was absolutely sure I would buy a Parhelia, the specs looked great. I've been waiting for that new performer from Matrox for a long time, but I decided to wait and see/read the first impressions/tests/benches.

    Now I'm not so sure wether I'll buy a Parhelia anymore. To be honest, I'm rather disappointed and I think many Matrox users are.

    Today I read about the new Radeon 9700 at Anand's... a real monster, 2-3 times faster than the Parhelia, almost exactly the same price....

    just my 2 cents,
    kaasboer
    [still running 4 Matrox-cards at home]

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    • #47
      The 9700 is cheaper in europe. WAY cheaper, I might add. The only thing Matrox would have over it would be solid, feature-rich drivers. Do you hear me, Matrox? Hello?

      AZ
      There's an Opera in my macbook.

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      • #48
        SOlid - Feature rich drivers?

        Guess that doesnt apply to windows 98 users, ATI is gonna get my $400 for including the populace.

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        • #49
          The parhelia is like a fine wine...it will get better with age. Matrox has been very diligent at updating the drivers every few weeks so this shows commitment on their part. Now what I would like to see is a die shrink, core clock increase and 256MB of RAM.
          Regards,

          Matrox Man

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Montanan
            SOlid - Feature rich drivers?

            Guess that doesnt apply to windows 98 users, ATI is gonna get my $400 for including the populace.
            and i am gonna laugh when your $400 video card doesn't work right.

            i bought an 8500 7 months ago and the damn thing *still* does not work right.

            i had less problems with my GeForce 256 than i did with my 8500. and i even bought the 8500 after the early builds of drivers.

            give up 98, move to 2000 or XP and quit whining about how vendors are not supporting Windows 98 as much as they used to.
            Last edited by DGhost; 18 July 2002, 16:12.
            "And yet, after spending 20+ years trying to evolve the user interface into something better, what's the most powerful improvement Apple was able to make? They finally put a god damned shell back in." -jwz

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            • #51
              I will almost certainly be buying a Parhelia, although it won';t be for about another year so as to coincide with the Hammer - dual Hammers with Tripole Parhelia will just kick so much goddamn arse.

              However by then I'm hoping there's either been a core revision or something miraculous happen driver-wise..
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              • #52
                "other software"

                - What other software are you talking about? More of the mainstream applications run better with the NT Kernal and enviroment. Windows 2000 being the standard for stability and functionality. Unless your ripping your pr0n. Then i dont care. Applications that are being used in todays world, do not run with the aging Windows 98. Which Microsoft themselves will/have stopped supporting soon. Buying a Radeon 9700 and running it with windows 98 is a bottleneck in itself. -
                - ? -

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                • #53
                  When I build my new computer in September it will have a Parhelia in it. I am very wary of ATi cards as I've been burned by their poor drivers in the past. I have also been spoilt by my G400's great image quality, so I am not giving that up for anything. The 9700 looks like a good card and perhaps had I not had ATi related problems in the past I'd have considered it.
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                  • #54
                    I have pre-ordered the Parhelia from a local shop. I'm still using a 16 mb G400 and it does almost everything I need. When the Parhelia arrives the G400 is going to my linux box.

                    Some of my friends could be called hardcore gamers and they upgrade their video cards every year. Sure the Parhelia is expensive but it will stay for next 3 years or so.

                    Montana wrote:
                    Matrox is a sinking ship
                    So a small bunch of hardcore gamers can bring down a company? Funny

                    On Matrox site:
                    Matrox Parhelia cards take 2D quality, professional productivity and 3D realism to a new level.
                    Does ATI mention 2D quality and professional productivity? Nope.

                    Anyway I would recommend a 9700 to anyone who want superb gaming performance. But I don't need that and I know I'm not the only one.

                    Let ATI and nVidia fight each other. I'm happy with a smaller manufacturer that caters my needs and has excellent support.

                    It's good there are several smaller manufacturers that do different kind of cards. That's diversity

                    // end of ramble

                    Max

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                    • #55
                      I have split this thread, and removed all the garbage bickering posts and name calling.

                      Keep to the topic of the thread.
                      Core2 Duo E7500 2.93, Asus P5Q Pro Turbo, 4gig 1066 DDR2, 1gig Asus ENGTS250, SB X-Fi Gamer ,WD Caviar Black 1tb, Plextor PX-880SA, Dual Samsung 2494s

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                      • #56
                        **DELETED**
                        I told you to stick to the topic of the thread.
                        Quit trolling.
                        -K
                        Last edited by Kruzin; 19 July 2002, 11:29.

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                        • #57
                          Keep it up Montanan and you will get the boot.

                          What Matrox does makes alot of sense to me. It's either sell one card to a "all I care about is how many fps I can get in Q3" still using win98 junkie or sell a thousand cards to a video editing company using win2K or winXP. You do the math. That is if you can.

                          Joel
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                          System Specs: AMD XP2000+ @1.68GHz(12.5x133), ASUS A7V133-C, 512MB PC133, Matrox Parhelia 128MB, SB Live! 5.1.
                          OS: Windows XP Pro.
                          Monitor: Cornerstone c1025 @ 1280x960 @85Hz.

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                          • #58
                            I cant believe this.

                            I list out an informative post, it gets deleted..

                            and then some smart mouth moderator JOEL levels personal attacks and degrades my character.

                            Ive not once resorted to personal attacks or inuendos, guess that is only left for Matrox moderators, im outta here and spreadin the word.

                            Big Duke

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                            • #59
                              You can't believe it?
                              You dragged this thread off topic, and I put it back on topic by removing the trash posts, and CLEARLY stated to keep on the topic of the thread.
                              You did not do that, so it was deleted. What's so hard to believe about that?
                              You have been nothing but insulting and inflamitory since your first post. Flame bait plain and simple.
                              We don't allow this kind of trolling here. Period.
                              Stick to the topic of the thread, or don't bother posting.
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                              • #60
                                I am sorry to say that I were going to buy a parhelia but after some consideration I have decided to buy a TI4200 instead... it has got power enough for me and also the funktionality that I need such as dualhead funktion. And all this at less than half the cost of a parhelia. Of course I would love to have a Parhelia in my workstation but not at the current price

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