Jenna and Barbara Bush Are Getting Screwed

[paulcs]

I have no love for their dad, but it seems to me they're getting busted a lot lately. I have to say, I had the more than occasional drink or seven (on good days!) when I was in college. If I got busted every time I went out and got a drink, I'd be on a first name basis with every freakin' cop and judge in New York State.

I suspect the Bush twins are a lot better behaved than I was. Apparently, a restaurant manager called the cops and ratted them out.

Paul
paulcs@speakeasy.net

[Rags]

That's the problem with having the drinking age at 21.

At 19, you are at the age of consent in all states, at 17 you can go to war, at 18 you can vote, at 15 you can drive (hardship).

Seems rather silly.

Rags

[Joel]

In more ways than one

Joel

But it was her grand dad's friend, ole Ronnie boy, who forced the states into raising the legal drinking age by threaten to without federal highway funds if they did not. And that I would call extortion.

Extort : To obtain from another by coercion or intimidation. (the goverment's threat to withhold highway funding if they did not raise the legal drinking age to 21)

Extortion : The illegal use of one's official position or powers (the federal government) to obtain property, funds, or patronage (the states raising the legal drinking age to 21)

And the last time I remember extortion was a crime. Am I wrong??

[Jon P. Inghram]

Here's a good comprise... lower the drinking age to 15, and raise the driving age to 21!

[paulcs]

I think young people get a real raw deal. They're such a convenient target. Lowering the drinking age didn't effect me in the least, but I was really unhappy with it. I still find the you can go to war and vote at 18 but you can't buy a drink argument compelling.

I suspect the Bush daughters are being selectively targeted. It's bad enough that they're chaperoned everywhere they go. That's gotta suck. (Unless, of course, they can talk the Secret Service agents into buying them booze. )

Paul
paulcs@speakeasy.net

[Guru]

In Finland we start drinking at the age 12 to 13! That explains our red noses etc.!

Legal drinking/smoking/driving age 18!

[FrankDC]

How anal are people in Texas anyway? The silly bar called 911 as if someone was being murdered.

[paulcs]

I'm a second generation Italian-American (three of my grandparents were born in the old country). I was pretty young when I had my first glass of wine -- diluted with 7-Up and probably repulsively sweet.

On my eighteenth birthday, my father sat me down to teach me the finer points of doing shots. He was a little late, and I think he knew it, but I really appreciated the gesture.

Paul
paulcs@speakeasy.net

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[SCompRacer]

It was probably a Gore supporter that phoned.

[dZeus]

being a child of the US president must really suck! Especially when people use you for their political ideas (well.... do you think that the person who turned them in would normally call the cops for underaged drinking)?

Another point:
If the restaurant manager called the cops for underaged drinking, why did he allow them to get the drinks in the first place???? (or was it a different restaurant)? If they were given those drinks with full intent of what happened, then it's _really_ sick.

[az]

The downsides of being famous... well, they just have bad luck having a famous father who apparently isn't loved by all people... I don't like their dad, but I feel sorry for them... I really find it stupid to allow you voting who makes laws, to give you a gun or a fast car than to give you drugs that you can mostly only damage yourself with. BTW, in Germany, legal age for smoking or drinking beer is 16, legal age for driving, drinking harder alcohol or going to the army is 18.

AZ

[Pneumatic]

Both of the girls are assigned Secret Service agents. Do they just sit by and watch all of this stuff go down? I know that they aren't baby sitters, but I am curious how that whole thing works. If I were George I would have the Secret Service agents fill me in on the girls activities. In fact, I may just hire some Agents when my daughter turns 14.

The guy that called the cops wasn't a Texan, he was a Democrat. That's why he used 911 instead of keeping it on the down-low. he wanted there to be as much publicity as possible.

[Joel]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Apparently, a restaurant manager called the cops and ratted them out.</font>

If they were breaking the law then the manager had an obligation to call the police. It's not his fault that they are the president's daughters and can't behave themselves.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I suspect the Bush daughters are being selectively targeted.</font>

That may be true but it still does not discount the fact that trying to buy alcohol by a 19 year old using someone else's ID is against the law.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">It was probably a Gore supporter that phoned.

Especially when people use you for their political ideas (well.... do you think that the person who turned them in would normally call the cops for underage drinking)?

The guy that called the cops wasn't a Texan, he was a Democrat. That's why he used 911 instead of keeping it on the down-low. he wanted there to be as much publicity as possible.</font>

Typical republican responses. Could it not be just a simple matter that they did something wrong, got caught (probably didn't think they would since they were the president's daughters), and because they are the president's daughter it is going to be highly publicized.

Joel

[ahartman]

Before we cannonize these poor poor girls for being so mistreated by the system, let's take a look at some things...

1) Your father is the most powerful man in the world

2) One of you was busted just LAST WEEK for underage drinking

3) You're trailed by the most powerful cops in the world all the time

How frickin' stupid do you have to be to use a fake ID to buy booze at some roadside dive?!?

Regardless of the law and it's fairness (sheesh, another discussion about that...), they BROKE THE LAW.

Did I use a fake ID in HS/College? Yes.

Did I whine when I got caught? NO, because I knew the consequences when I broke the law.

Find me a _real_ victim and I'll evaluate their plight.

[edit] Just read a story, Jenna was caught using an ID and not served. Barbara and a friend were served. Jenna charged with using a fake ID, Barbara & her friend w/possesion by a minor.

And the old man (GWB) signed the zero-tolerance law in '97 that busted his daughters. How about that, conspiracy theorists...[/edit]

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[Jorden]

Ho hum, I saw one of the daughters on TV, and her face only would make me run to a phone to call 911 already

Can't presidents make beautiful daughters? If they can, everyone around forget their mishaps

Jord.