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  • #91
    Originally posted by Umfriend
    Dogbert, congratulations. I think a lot of them were born and lived in Europe and the US. So either they have learned a lot from the christian surroundings, or they have contributed to the esteem of Europe and the US. In both cases, clear examples of where integration and cross fertilisation (you could know what I mean) gets ppl. Also, their background comes from well developed countries, or at least richer countries than Muslim countries were, say 100 years ago. They'll need time to catch up, and if they directed them petro dollats to goo ends, it might not be that long. Indians will be faster methinks, maybe chinese as well.

    The last "Jewish" contribution to math, AFAIK, is the estimation of PI at 3...
    Umf
    True, the Jews who succeeded were mostly those of best integrated with their surrounding.
    About the Indians, well they already contributed quite a lot to our world by inventing / discovering the "0" among other things.
    Indians, Koreans and others are currently rushing ahead to be at the front lines of technology. China on the other hand is problematic with all their blocking of information among other things. The Arab countries ? I don't see it happening anytime soon. Turkey is a good possibility and Lebanon would have been a great candidate if not for all the turmoil there. I've never seen any Arab technology being exported. Have you ?

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    • #92
      If you're going to credit the Indians with "0," you'd better give Arab countries credit for technology:
      Their number system
      Astronomy
      Preserving some of the world's best written works
      A large part of modern medical theory/practice.
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      • #93
        Dogbert, reading that list, just say that you think Jews, or is it whites, are the superior race and all other races are inferior. No need to beat around the bush.
        You know, such thinking has caused the death of millions earlier last century.
        no matrox, no matroxusers.

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        • #94
          dogbert: I've never seen any Arab technology being exported. Have you ?

          Back to school for you.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by James_D
            And what are you saying, that the jews are more intelligent than some other people, or that because of a good financial status the jews could/can afford a decent education, thereby giving the people the opportunity to achieve a goal.





            Or was it just a brag list!!!!???

            James
            Neither. Jews were very eager to "prove themselves". To show how well they are integrated and how much they contribute to their country. The Spanish Inquisition and the holocaust show that they somewhat failed.
            Why the list and the figures ? To make you go forth and look about your own nation, to see who you can 'steal' from this list and say "he's mine too" like Albert Einstein being German and later American. How many times did a war end with 1 side winning physically but losing culturally ?
            All this politicly correctness and globality makes people lose their precious culture for empty statements about us all being human and other kinds of shit. If you lose your culture, you'll later lose your individuality. Think about it.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Wombat
              If you're going to credit the Indians with "0," you'd better give Arab countries credit for technology:
              Their number system
              Astronomy
              Preserving some of the world's best written works
              A large part of modern medical theory/practice.
              Those are the Ancient Egyptians. Nothing to do with Arabs. Learn some about Egypt.

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              • #97
                We have our numbers from the Arabs, no? I'm sure we learned some things from them during the crusades, and I think some touristic sight in Spain were built by the Moors between 900 and 1400 . Frankly, I know too little about htis and do not have the time to investigate. I feel that the Arab and most of the Muslim community is held back by their governements more than by any religious / cultural fact (even though they all interact). Agree with your statement on Turkey and Lebanon. Moreover, a Palestinian state would, IMO, further the Arab development because a lot of Palestinians have been over the world and seen a lot of countries, cultures and political systems, which can not be said I think for other Arabs 9at least not to that extent).
                Umf
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by goldstein
                  dogbert: I've never seen any Arab technology being exported. Have you ?

                  Back to school for you.
                  Look what the cat brought in...
                  Do you have any DATA other than remarks to enlighten us with, or are you just trolling your sorry usual self here ?

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                  • #99
                    Dogbert: I do NOT get your point of your reply to James at all.... I thought that list was there to show how much jewsih culture was better than Muslim culture because they have far less winners?
                    Umf
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                    • what no comment?!
                      "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                      "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                      • 100th reply !!!

                        Originally posted by Umfriend
                        Dogbert: I do NOT get your point of your reply to James at all.... I thought that list was there to show how much jewsih culture was better than Muslim culture because they have far less winners?
                        Umf
                        It wasn't a brag list. I posted it to make you look deeper into your own culture. Call it a "cultural achievement contest". Then see what you're trading when you let other cultures come in and take over yours.

                        I am proud of my culture, heritage and people (except for Goldstein and his kind, I wonder why they were accepted in the first place . Oh well, no culture's perfect).

                        edit: check the subject

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                        • Then see what you're trading when you let other cultures come in and take over yours.
                          You repeat this every time as if it was the truth. Please stop spreading this lie.
                          no matrox, no matroxusers.

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                          • Tell that to the phillipines...

                            /me wonders why it's so easy for people to understand how Communism destroyed the culture of so many countries, yet they find it impossible to believe it is happening once more just differently.

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                            • and I shall ask yet again...

                              Even though there are less than 20 million Jews worldwide, 20% of all Nobel prizes were given to Jews...
                              Are you sure of that? Alot of Jews aren't recognised...
                              "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                              "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                              • Please explain the question.

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