Hey, I just read something interesting.
Did you know that 1/3 of all Germans under the age of 30 (that's 33% for those of you math-challenged) believe that the United States Government purposely destroyed the WTC and Pentagon on September 11?
That's not a joke. That's not a fake number. That's not "arabs who already are prejudiced against Israel". That's GERMAN YOUTH.
And do you know WHY they believe that? Because of crackpots like Moore who take things out of context and LIE TO PEOPLE.
I don't CARE how good his message is. I don't CARE if he makes some people think. I JUST DON'T CARE, because he's taking the easily misled (people who will go sit through crap like that in a movie theater) and "helping" them to be misled EVEN FURTHER.
I don't CARE if you have a good point about the government and the media and all that happy horse shit. You think you can make that BETTER by causing people (dumb people, but let's face it that's 75% of the WORLD dammit) to believe OTHER things that aren't true?
You want people to be angry at the decline of our society? There are lots of ways to do that WITHOUT making Charlton Heston, who is an otherwise UPSTANDING citizen, into a criminal with words he didn't even say!
You want people to get upset at the media? You can do that WITHOUT making up numbers, distorting facts, and drawing connections that just aren't there.
Zokes, I understand your point. But you're refusing to understand mine - that no matter WHAT the purpose, lying to the public and making them think untrue things is WORSE than whatever you're trying to save them from.
MUCH MUCH WORSE.
It's worse than apathy. It's worse than whatever you feel the government is doing to them. It's worse than the media.
Causing people to believe things you KNOW AREN'T TRUE is worse than just about anything.
This is why I don't like marketing departments, or the people in them. I think they all deserve to die a fiery death in the passenger seat of a Pinto. (Safe car! Honest!)
This is why I don't like politicians, who make a living lying to people.
It's also why I don't like pseudo-intellectual BLOWHARDS like Moore (and Mutz on his bad days) who make a big show of being sympathetic to the plight of the common man, in order to push their own agenda at the expense of the public.
Moore HURTS PEOPLE. He hurts Charlton Heston directly. He hurts those of us who'd like to NOT have our 2nd amendment taken away. And he hurts the public by feeding them YET ANOTHER piece of misinformation and slanderous lies.
It's bad enough that the government does it, that the media does it, and that big corporations do it. But when people who claim to be AGAINST those big 3 entities ALSO do it... it's flat out inexcusable. There is NO cause "just" enough to make it excusable.
Moore's Oscar should be revoked. He should be sued for slander and libel, and he should be forced to get up on stage at NEXT year's Oscars and apologize to the people he has hurt.
- Gurm
Did you know that 1/3 of all Germans under the age of 30 (that's 33% for those of you math-challenged) believe that the United States Government purposely destroyed the WTC and Pentagon on September 11?
That's not a joke. That's not a fake number. That's not "arabs who already are prejudiced against Israel". That's GERMAN YOUTH.
And do you know WHY they believe that? Because of crackpots like Moore who take things out of context and LIE TO PEOPLE.
I don't CARE how good his message is. I don't CARE if he makes some people think. I JUST DON'T CARE, because he's taking the easily misled (people who will go sit through crap like that in a movie theater) and "helping" them to be misled EVEN FURTHER.
I don't CARE if you have a good point about the government and the media and all that happy horse shit. You think you can make that BETTER by causing people (dumb people, but let's face it that's 75% of the WORLD dammit) to believe OTHER things that aren't true?
You want people to be angry at the decline of our society? There are lots of ways to do that WITHOUT making Charlton Heston, who is an otherwise UPSTANDING citizen, into a criminal with words he didn't even say!
You want people to get upset at the media? You can do that WITHOUT making up numbers, distorting facts, and drawing connections that just aren't there.
Zokes, I understand your point. But you're refusing to understand mine - that no matter WHAT the purpose, lying to the public and making them think untrue things is WORSE than whatever you're trying to save them from.
MUCH MUCH WORSE.
It's worse than apathy. It's worse than whatever you feel the government is doing to them. It's worse than the media.
Causing people to believe things you KNOW AREN'T TRUE is worse than just about anything.
This is why I don't like marketing departments, or the people in them. I think they all deserve to die a fiery death in the passenger seat of a Pinto. (Safe car! Honest!)
This is why I don't like politicians, who make a living lying to people.
It's also why I don't like pseudo-intellectual BLOWHARDS like Moore (and Mutz on his bad days) who make a big show of being sympathetic to the plight of the common man, in order to push their own agenda at the expense of the public.
Moore HURTS PEOPLE. He hurts Charlton Heston directly. He hurts those of us who'd like to NOT have our 2nd amendment taken away. And he hurts the public by feeding them YET ANOTHER piece of misinformation and slanderous lies.
It's bad enough that the government does it, that the media does it, and that big corporations do it. But when people who claim to be AGAINST those big 3 entities ALSO do it... it's flat out inexcusable. There is NO cause "just" enough to make it excusable.
Moore's Oscar should be revoked. He should be sued for slander and libel, and he should be forced to get up on stage at NEXT year's Oscars and apologize to the people he has hurt.
- Gurm
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