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  • #76
    Originally posted by Dogbert
    Who did you mean to reply with this ?
    Dogbert.
    no matrox, no matroxusers.

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    • #77
      Would you elaborate ? I didn't write anything about Indian music, I even stated that their movies ruled the scene her during the 70's. I also explained about Arab music and recommended it.

      What's your problem ?

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      • #78
        Dogbert: the Nobel prize is like 100 years old? Does not say a lot in my book. Popular knowledge (which can be wrong a lot of times) has it that the Arabs were way ahead in art, science and medicine when Europe was still in the dark ages. Empires/cultures rise and fall and on the ashes of one may rise yet another someday. I'll agree that I do not know of any significant contributions to the world to science from Muslims or Arab culture (or from Jewish, Italian, Polish, Mexican, Chinese cultures) over the past 100 years.

        omegaRED: AFAIK (and that won't take me 100 yards), a lot of americans are ALSO proud of their initial heritage (Irish, Italian, Afro-American, Polak etc)? If it is only about language, I'll agree swiftly. I guess this is what I think: If you migrate, you take it upon yourself to learn the language and find the best way to embed your lifestyle into the one you are migrating to. It is up to you first to ensure that no conflicts arise. This does not mean that you must change your own. It also does not mean that in the development of that culture, your own may not affect it. Here we have a feast called "Sinterklaas" which is on December 5th (kids get presents from St. Nicholas). This year, the sugarfeast(?!?, end of ramadan) fell on Dec. 5th as well. Some argued that we should hold Sinterklaas on the 6th this year because of that. I say "NO WAY". I do not mind however that Muslims celebrate their own feast on the same day as well (and take their older kids to the mosque in the morning before going to school and missing out a few hours of school).

        KvH: I need to think about you. J
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        • #79
          Uh so now I have a problem?
          no matrox, no matroxusers.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by GNEP
            Call that fluent English James???

            (j/k)


            hehehe.. oooooooopssssss...

            Weel taht speaks for it self now doesn't it..



            (TYPOs in this are intended the previous was not... I didnt bother to double check for typos....




            James.
            Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by thop
              Uh so now I have a problem?
              At least give the quote for which you wrote this irrelevant criticism. I don't think you'll find in everything I posted anything against Indian movies or Arab music.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Technoid
                I'm not aiming at the ones that has been here for less than a year or two.

                I'm aiming at the ******* who have lived here for more than 10 years and still don't speak any swedish and the third gen that speaks there grandparents homelands language better than swedish!!

                I bet that if you lived in hungary for 10 years you would pick up enough to hold a simple conversation


                hehe I agree totally....


                James.
                Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by thop
                  Uh so now I have a problem?
                  As usual

                  Rags

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Umfriend
                    I'll agree that I do not know of any significant contributions to the world to science from Muslims or Arab culture (or from Jewish, Italian, Polish, Mexican, Chinese cultures) over the past 100 years.
                    Here's a list of Jewish nobel prize winners.

                    Albert Einstein -- The most famous and influential scientist of all time
                    Richard Feynman -- 'The greatest scientific mind since World War II '
                    Lev Landau -- Soviet physicist, Nobel Prize in Physics 1962
                    Rita Levi-Montalcini -- winner of the Nobel Prize for her work on Nerve Growth factor (with Stanley Cohen)
                    Aaron Klug -- Nobel prize winner in Chemistry, for work on X-ray analysis of biomolecules
                    Elie Wiesel -- Jewish author: 'Night', winner of the Nobel Prize for Peace
                    Martin Perl -- Nobel prize winner in Physics: discoverer of the Tau Lepton
                    Isaac Bashevis Singer -- Author, Nobel Prize-winner for Literature
                    Niels Bohr -- Nobel prize-winning Physicist: atomic structure
                    Shimon Peres -- Israel's Labor party leader
                    Yitzhak Rabin -- Prime Minister of Israel - Worker for Peace' Chief of Staff in Six Day War
                    Milton Friedman -- Recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics
                    Arno Penzias -- Nobel prize winner in Physics, studied interstellar isotopes
                    Henri Bergson -- Author/Philosopher, Nobel prize for Literature
                    Georges Charpak -- won the Nobel Prize in Physics 1992 for his particle detector
                    Albert Michelson -- Nobel Prize for Physics 1907
                    Selman Waksman -- Microbiologist, 1952 Nobel Prize winner in physiology and medicine
                    Elie Metchnikoff -- Nobel prize winner in Medicine, studied immunity in infectious diseases
                    Joseph Brodsky -- Nobel Prize winner in literature, most famous modern poet
                    Paul Samuelson -- Nobel Prize in Economics (first ever)
                    Hans Bethe -- Nobel Prize in Physics in 1967
                    Paul Ehrlich -- Nobel prize for descovering a treatment for syphilis.
                    Howard Temin -- 1975 Nobel Prize in Medicine
                    John Harsanyi -- Winner of the Nobel prize in Economics: studied utilitarian ethics
                    George WALD -- Nobel Price in Medicine for work contributing to our understanding of vision.
                    Isaac Bashevis Singer -- 1978 Nobel Laureate in Literature: 'Enemies : A Love Story', 'The Golem', 'Meshugah'
                    David Baltimore -- Nobel Prize in Physiology and Medicine
                    Shmuel Yosef Agnon -- Israeli writer, winner of the 1966 Nobel Prize: 'The Bridal Canopy'; `A Guest for the Night'
                    Tadeus Reichstein -- Nobel Prize for Medicine 1950
                    Franco Modigliani -- Italian-born economist, 1985 Nobel Laureate in Economics: saving and financial markets
                    Baruch Blumberg -- Nobel prize winner in Medicine: field of epidemiology
                    Nadine Gordimer -- South African novelist, Nobel prize-winner in Literature
                    Herbert Simon -- Nobel prize winner in Economics: for work on decision-making
                    Stanley Cohen -- Nobel prize winner in Medicine, for work in experimental embryology
                    Claude Cohen-Tannoudji -- Nobel prize winner in Physics, developed laser-cooling technology
                    Joshua Lederberg -- Nobel prize winner in Medicine, discovered viral transduction
                    Daniel Nathans -- Nobel prize in Medicine: for restriction analysis of Simian Virus 40 DNA
                    Roald Hoffmann -- Nobel prize winner in Chemistry: field of electronic structures
                    Saul Bellow -- Canadian born novelist and Nobel Prize winner for lietature
                    Joseph Goldstein -- Nobel prize in Medicine
                    Simon Kuznets -- Nobel prize winner in Economics
                    Herbert Brown -- Nobel prize winner in Chemistry: for his work in the borane-organoborane area
                    Stanley Prusiner -- Nobel prize winner in Medicine: for the discovery of Prions, infectious proteins
                    Hermann Muller -- Nobel prize winner in Medicine: for work on biological effects of radiation
                    Paul Johann Ludwig Heyse -- Nobel prize winner in Literature, 1830-1914
                    Elias Canetti -- Bulgarian born essayist and novelist who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1981
                    Fritz Haber -- winner of the Nobel Prize of Chemistry in 1918, for the synthesis of ammonia from its elements
                    Murray Gell-Mann -- Nobel prize in physics 1969. Introduced 'quarks'.
                    Isidor Rabi -- Nobel prize in physics in 1944
                    Andrew Schally -- Nobel prize winner in Medicine: field of endocrinology
                    Nelly Sachs -- Poet, winner of the Nobel prize in Literature
                    Bernard Katz -- Nobel prize winner in Medicine, studied neuromuscular transmission
                    Reinhard Selten -- Nobel prize winner in Economics: for work on 'game equilibrium models'
                    Douglas Osheroff -- Nobel prize winner in Physics, for work in superfluidity
                    Jack Steinberger -- Particle Physicist, winner of the Nobel Prize
                    David Lee -- Nobel prize winner in Physics: for work on superfluidity
                    Harold Kroto -- Nobel prize-winner in Chemistry, discoverer of C60
                    Leon Lederman -- Nobel prize winner in Physics, 1988
                    Jack Steinberger -- Nobel Prize winner in Physics, 1988
                    Cesar Milstein -- Nobel prize winner in Medicine: field of immunology


                    Even though there are less than 20 million Jews worldwide, 20% of all Nobel prizes were given to Jews...

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                    • #85
                      Even though there are less than 20 million Jews worldwide, 20% of all Nobel prizes were given to Jews...
                      Are you sure of that? Alot of Jews aren't recognised...
                      "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                      "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                      • #86
                        I`m not saying that they shouldnt be allowed to influence and change the society in any way, i`m talking about immigrants ENFORCING some beliefs, laws, rules and norms... because its how it was in their former country.

                        The language problem is the most apparent one. And whats worse, its not the INABILITY to learn the language, its the UNWILINGNESS thats the problem.
                        Seth, are you ok? I`m peachy Kate. The world is my oyster. - Seth Gecko

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                        • #87
                          Dogbert, congratulations. I think a lot of them were born and lived in Europe and the US. So either they have learned a lot from the christian surroundings, or they have contributed to the esteem of Europe and the US. In both cases, clear examples of where integration and cross fertilisation (you could know what I mean) gets ppl. Also, their background comes from well developed countries, or at least richer countries than Muslim countries were, say 100 years ago. They'll need time to catch up, and if they directed them petro dollats to goo ends, it might not be that long. Indians will be faster methinks, maybe chinese as well.

                          The last "Jewish" contribution to math, AFAIK, is the estimation of PI at 3...
                          Umf
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Dogbert
                            Here's a list of Jewish nobel prize winners.

                            Even though there are less than 20 million Jews worldwide, 20% of all Nobel prizes were given to Jews...

                            And what are you saying, that the jews are more intelligent than some other people, or that because of a good financial status the jews could/can afford a decent education, thereby giving the people the opportunity to achieve a goal.





                            Or was it just a brag list!!!!???

                            James
                            Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus.

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                            • #89
                              Are you sure of that? Alot of Jews aren't recognised...
                              Until they get a Nobel prize? (j/k)

                              omegaRED: I'll agree with the ENFORCING bit easily. Think it comes from where you are that you encounter that. Don't think we have that here though. Re.: the UNWILLINGNESS, I say: "no mercy"
                              Umf
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                              • #90
                                BOASTING MODE
                                As a brief sidenote, I thought Joel would shut this thread down after all that racist and moron calling. Pleased to see that I've been essential in pacifying this thread. I think it will now stay open, won't it?
                                /BOASTING MODE

                                Hurray for all of mixed blood
                                Umf
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