'Fusion' cards

[Mark F]

Are you talking about the embeded memory like that Finnish Vaporware?? BitBoysOy (Oy as in Jiddish )

Mark F.

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OH NO, my retractable cup holder swallowed a DVD...
and burped out a movie

[Rob M.]

That's it. If they were predicting Jan2000 release date, then I'd expect some real cards by other companies coming out with it soon...

[SteveC]

You guys (discounting all BBz ) are just too funny! You're all colder than an eskimo's cold bits!

Matrox should be listening to this thread to get ideas for their G1600!!

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Cheers,
Steve

"Life is what we make of it, yet most of us just fake"

[Werdna]

What's happening on September 11th?

[dZeus]

Now I know it!!!!

it's a board which merges several different kind of videocard chips into one board, as the Bitchin' Fast did...

I think it uses the ATI Radeon for watching DVD's, the 3Dfx VSA-100 for FSAA and the G800 core for the 3D and 2D graphics

[dZeus]

seems like I am right!

look at what I found on my doorsteps just 5 minutes ago:


It had a note on it which said: CONGRATULATIONS! (please don't tell others about it)

I am still testing it.... in Q3A it is so fast, I can see what others will do before they actually do it, so that I can win every match! Now I know why Matrox doesn't want to leak info like this!

[Jorden]

Option two: The Fusion boards are nothing more than (highspeed) RAM upgrade boards

Just why they would need drivers is beyond me though

Edit: Or the G450 and G800 counterparts with some new Fast Cycle RAM (the FCRAM, dZeus found in the pdpages.dll)/Edit

Jord.

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[Sisyfos]

Allright, it's so fast that when we finally get it, we've already had it for two years.
Imagine that, you've had a card for two years and it's still the fastest.

[edit]This message is edited from the future. I have the G800 Phushion now and it's so fast I got to the end of time and started afresh. Just proves that time is circular.[/edit]

Yes I see what you mean. I'm even able to comment your comment before you posted it. Spectacular.

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[dZeus]

You know, because of this card, I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO POST THAT!

this really kicks ass!!!!

[Ali]

If the chips on the Fusions are going to be F450s and F800s rather than G series, that suggests there is going to be a subtle difference.

ATI couldnt get their dual chip MAXX to work on Win2000 due to problems with 2000 not recognising the second chip. Im guessing that the F series will be the same as the G series, but with some sort of internal change to get around this problem.

Also, what happened to those 'rumors' of video cards that also had a sound card built in. (fusion?)

That would be a good feature for the OEM market, which is what Matrox is all about

Ali

[DuRaNgO]

oh my god, are we talking on-die memory?!?

[Rob M.]

Ok, we found a F450 in the drivers. This means this technology can be implemented with a 450 chip This means the "fusion feature" MUST be implemented at a board level. Here's my next guess (this is fun):

It's impracticle to have sockets to plug in a 2nd chip. You'd also have to plug in a 2nd set of ram too, and all these sockets take up PCB space, making the thing cost too much.. especially since most people would either a) get a single board an only use that or b) get a double board right away.

Short of using two heads to do 1 purpose, the only way I can think to have a fusion product would be a seperate add-in card to do SLI-like work. IE, you buy a G450, and if you want more power, you also buy a F450. Or a G800, and a F800.

[dZeus]

I'll post the info here, so that Kruzin can delete the other thread (sorry):

my latest guess is:

the F450 Fusion will be a version of that board with FCRAM in stead of DDR SGRAM/SDRAM, and the F800 Fusion Plus will be a version with DDR FCRAM, where the G800 will use SGRAM or DDR SGRAM?

Maybe the fusion is a dualboard after all, but also using FCRAM, as stated above? but a dualchip G450 doesn't make sense, does it!?!?

[Rob M.]

Just because the F450 name exists in the drivers doesn't mean that it'll retail. It's quite possible M was using the 450 as a test until the G800 chip became available..

[Jorden]

In the PDPages.dll there's mention of the following files that give some food for thoughts as well: MGAXDD.DRV, MGAPDX64.VXD, MGAPDX64.DRV

These drivers aren't in the Powerdesk 6.01 package. So what are they? 64bit drivers? For Windows 2k or ME maybe?

Or dual 32bit drivers for a dual GPU? ...

Jord.

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