'Fusion' cards

[Marshmallowman]

how about 2 graphic engines/gpu's one for each dual head, full speed/resolution on both displays. so you can have full on seroscopic 3D.

or better intgegration(fusion) of video card with the CPU, eg full utilisation of 4x agp bus, things like fast writes..etc

or perhaps its a fusion of video card and toaster, instead of cooling the chip and wasting all that heat, you have grill so you make toast, and roast marshmallows.

[Storm]

Hmm.. OR they could use one of those peltier coolers, to keep the chip cool and your marshmallows roasted. Next thing you know, frozen food will have the following instructions:
"Place the food on your videocard. Run Quake 3 for 15 (fifteen) minutes at Medium setting (1280x1024, Medium Textures). Wait 5 minutes to cool. Serve."

=Storm=

[Pertti]

Hmm...

- "this will be something that will blow most of you and the competition away."
- "Tradition thinking will not get you close here."

Everyone is talking about 3D, and still there are no manufacturers capable of providing us with anything more than a 2D representation of it.

...Anyone seen Lawnmoverman2 lately ?

No need for expensive monitors no more, you just plug the G800 into you head (Fusion), and it WILL blow you away

[Pace]

Hey people! Re-read this whole thread and the vision of the F800 comes a whole lot clearer - then do a little thinking about the ones who were lukewarm, put it all together and what have you got?

Paul.

--
<a href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.mccarroll/hosted/arena">The Pace3000 Arena</a>

[skeoch]

do tell?

[cjolley]

The G800 is a RISC chip with a very fast mem bus?
Need a new feature? No problem! Add it to the drivers.
Everything done in programable microcode on the chip.
Nice, flat instruction & memory models.
Well?
chuck

PS A big advantage of this would be that your HW designers don't have to guess a year in advance what features will become popular with developers.


[This message has been edited by cjolley (edited 07 August 2000).]

[drzaius]

a card that about >20 people have no idea what it has on it?

what i want to know is, is it a fusion of what 2 boards can do into 1 board. or what 1 board can do into 1 chip?

[Storm]

(cjolley) I thought about that too actually, but there would be too much of a slowdown with that method, which is why it's used in parts not requiring speeds like your firmware upgrades, etc. Plus.. I would think applying RISC technology to a graphics accelerator would be a bit tricky. So far it has been used on cpu's, but has it been tested on 3d accelerators? Reducing the instruction set for those could lead to less features and flexibility when it comes to programming them.

It's just my guess though.
(Plus, I doubt that's what the G800 will be based on.. it's just to soon for that.)

Edit: Maybe in the future, the entire chip would consist of software modules representing any single electronic part (transistors, capacitors, resistors, etc) and those modules would be placed to form something like a 2000x2000x7 grid of interconnectable parts. If each of them were assigned a function, and connected to another module, then a different 'hardware' part of the chip could then compile all that information, and rebuild the chip inside itself. It's like a software hardware chip.. the biggest problem with which would be speed.. and memory to store and execute 28 million software modules... at around 200Mhz. Yes. Ouch.

=Storm=

[This message has been edited by Storm (edited 07 August 2000).]

[Maggi]

Hey, Himself.

I already am in real 3D mode ...
http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/Forum4/HTML/003999.html

Cheers,
Maggi

[Ant]

The thinking here is far too blinkered, remember there will be a Fusion G450 and a Fusion G800. You are all thinking of what a Graphics card company should be producing.

Try rearranging "Matrox" for a little clue

[Maggi]

- Xortam
- Tamrox
- Xamtor
- Maxtor
- Toxram
- Maxtro

... so which direction, Ant ?

The direction that Xortam posted his replies ?
Or the fact that Maxtor released 60GB ATA66 HDs ?

[Quartermile1]

Hmmm... Re-arrange Matrox... The only thing I can think of off hand is...

"Maxtor" ???? Hard drives???? WTF? How about another clue? (Vanna, I would like to buy a clue..)

Laugh...

[Storm]

MATROX
------
RAMTOX (Ram talks?)
MAXTOR (I Really doubt it. )
ARTMOX (Art... mocks?)
TORMAX (Tarmack.. Carmack? No.)
ATMROX (ATM's rock!)

It Must be one of those..

So a fusion of several G450's or G800's?
Some added Feature to either of the cards?
We need more hints.

(Still, I'm thinking there's RAM involved somehow.. or memory of _some_ sort at least.)

=Storm=

[Jutai]

I say it integrates the T&L engine to the chip then it also integrates the new "MATROX" em er "Matrix" skinning engine
-chris k.

[cjolley]

I do seem to have drifted off into the eather there a bit.
On chip T&L and Skinning is prob. more like it.
chuck